Hawks Vs Typhoon
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Hawks Vs Typhoon
To the crews of the two Hawks and the Typhoon who were dogfighting over Hawick around 15.00 this afternoon 
Just caught the end of it, after hearing a bit of jet noise over the factory. Who won?
Just caught the end of it, after hearing a bit of jet noise over the factory. Who won?
Depends. If you could see them all at the same time, it was a visual fight. Once you're 2v1, as long as you play your game correctly the two should win. Even with just 2xAIM9L and an Aden cannon.
Obviously the Typhoon is in a different league, but even he can't shoot what's behind him - if they did it right.
Or behind her. Other genders are abvailable.
Obviously the Typhoon is in a different league, but even he can't shoot what's behind him - if they did it right.
Or behind her. Other genders are abvailable.
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Forget the cannon as the Hawk is extremely unlikely to be able to get anywhere near close enough to the Typhoon for it to be of any use. Unseen Aim9L shot would be its only chance, but even then it would need to be a quick shot before the seen Hawk was toast & the Typhoon reversed the hunted/hunter roles.
What flight sim are you kids playing???
Forget the cannon as the Hawk is extremely unlikely to be able to get anywhere near close enough to the Typhoon for it to be of any use.
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I sincerely hope that the Hawks were simulating something other than 9Ls. If not then the Typhoon needs to stop picking on the little kids in the playground and find something better to play fight with.
Thanks, BEags! RG, understood.
In truth, it's an academic question. Visual combat against a Typhoon can only happen if you can get close to it in the first place (or set it up). The whole point is for the fighter to make the Hawks into scrap metal way before they even know he's there.
Of course, it's still important for Typhoon pilots to practice this sort of thing; it's a good handling/capacity exercise, but (more important) enormous fun.
A kill's a kill.
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In truth, it's an academic question. Visual combat against a Typhoon can only happen if you can get close to it in the first place (or set it up). The whole point is for the fighter to make the Hawks into scrap metal way before they even know he's there.
Of course, it's still important for Typhoon pilots to practice this sort of thing; it's a good handling/capacity exercise, but (more important) enormous fun.
the Typhoon needs to stop picking on the little kids
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Hi LAL
Apologies if my initials suggest that I am an admin burden, however having over 4000hrs of airborne time in the Hawk (+ another 3000 in other pointy types), I have been unfortunate enough to have been on the receiving end of Hawk vs Typhoon visual manoeuvring on many occassions & am more than happy to stand by my statement.
Apologies if my initials suggest that I am an admin burden, however having over 4000hrs of airborne time in the Hawk (+ another 3000 in other pointy types), I have been unfortunate enough to have been on the receiving end of Hawk vs Typhoon visual manoeuvring on many occassions & am more than happy to stand by my statement.
Apologies for my presumption!
I have been on both sides of the Hawk/Typhoon fight, and stand by my statement. Granted, the Typhoon should win BVR every time, but by the sounds of it this ex was 2v1 acm in the visual arena. I'm sure you've flown many of these serials in your Hawk and found yourself on the winning side - even if you lost your wingy
I have been on both sides of the Hawk/Typhoon fight, and stand by my statement. Granted, the Typhoon should win BVR every time, but by the sounds of it this ex was 2v1 acm in the visual arena. I'm sure you've flown many of these serials in your Hawk and found yourself on the winning side - even if you lost your wingy
Neither - the mighty SHAR woke from its slumber and shot them both when they weren't looking, prior to giving a world class aerobatics display which ended with sky writing saying 'Fly Navy, Screw Sharkey'... 
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Neither - the mighty SHAR woke from its slumber and shot them both when they weren't looking, prior to giving a world class aerobatics display which ended with sky writing saying 'Fly Navy, Screw Shark
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Hmm does the tiffie have a HMS? [one of the Elgin test firings from an F16]
Guess the video of the U turn must still be classified
Matra-BAe AIM-132 ASRAAM ASRAAM - The RAAF's New WVR AAM
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[one of the Elgin test firings from an F16]Guess the video of the U turn must still be classified
Matra-BAe AIM-132 ASRAAM ASRAAM - The RAAF's New WVR AAM
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I suspect that they chose the "over Hawick" arena due to the fact that if anything fell from the sky no great loss would occur 
Not an expert on the subject, but the two Hawks were trying to keep in close to the Typhoon, but it just kept pulling tight turns and losing them. It wasn't as good as the 2 Lightnings and at least 3 Phantoms I saw many years ago from almost the same spot, but they were a lot lower. The whole town may not have seen it, but they heard it.