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New Gen AirShips - Hybrid Air Vehicles, UK

Old 1st Dec 2022, 13:52
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
whats that big metal bit sticking out of the bottom???
Natural place for hydrogen tanks.
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Old 1st Dec 2022, 14:08
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
Oh God!

Every 10-20 years airships pop up again - and then die another lingering death..............
That's because it can't carry anything. Every advert I see for it says it can carry ten tonnes. That's paltry copmpared to an ordinary scheduled passenger aeroplane and even more so for a dedicated freighter.
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Old 1st Dec 2022, 15:34
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Originally Posted by jolihokistix
Natural place for hydrogen tanks.
Why will it carry hydrogen; I would have thought that would be too dangerous; surely helium is the gas used.
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Originally Posted by Doctor Cruces
That's because it can't carry anything. Every advert I see for it says it can carry ten tonnes. That's paltry copmpared to an ordinary scheduled passenger aeroplane and even more so for a dedicated freighter.
While it may carry less than an airliner at the moment it isnt in competition with airliners…and it can carry 10 tonnes at a tenth of the cost of another ten tonne transporter…

And Helium is indeed the gas used.
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whats that big metal bit sticking out of the bottom???
​​​​​​​looks like a stick to hold the model in the air.
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Old 1st Dec 2022, 18:22
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While it may carry less than an airliner at the moment it isnt in competition with airliners…and it can carry 10 tonnes at a tenth of the cost of another ten tonne transporter…
So far it has carried bugger all, and looks unlikely ever to do so.
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Old 1st Dec 2022, 18:31
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Originally Posted by chopper2004
Wow, I was reporting on the Airlander 50 in 2012. At that time they were touting the Airlander 200 also, though it seems neither have ever really gone anywhere.
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Old 1st Dec 2022, 19:58
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Somebody keeps sticking pins in them.
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And Helium is indeed the gas used.
They should get really innovative and go for maximum lift = pure vacuum..... An interesting airship was the U.S. metal clad ZMC-2 of 1929, the hull was rigid and made of alclad aluminum, which was developed by Alcoa especially for the airship. The hull material was .0095" thick.





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Old 1st Dec 2022, 22:56
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Originally Posted by Doctor Cruces
That's because it can't carry anything. Every advert I see for it says it can carry ten tonnes. That's paltry copmpared to an ordinary scheduled passenger aeroplane and even more so for a dedicated freighter.
The link says it can carry fifty tonnes. I hope that's not just batteries.
They're developing an electric version.
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Old 2nd Dec 2022, 00:01
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Originally Posted by HOVIS
The link says it can carry fifty tonnes. I hope that's not just batteries.
They're developing an electric version.
That was my allusion a few posts above. If it's electric, and if it's able to carry 50 tons, and if it's able to carry batteries, and if it's huge and round, then surely we have found an ideal vehicle for green hydrogen tanks for FCEV power at last!
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The H2ndenburg?
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exactly !!
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