Chinook 30th Anniversary Dining In Night - 9th Sep 2011
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Much Better!
Much Better..... I knew you could do it if you applied yourself!
Having actually flown in DW's LHS a few times during those early Summer days of 82 when you were busy trying to avoid swimming darn sarth..... It is easy to think his display was better. He lead the way for sure, and being the first to show what the beast could really do was bound to have lasting impact. Your displays carried DW's tradition on....even if the tp in me had to put a few issues aside
It will be great if DW joins us for the 30th.... OH dear my brain is hurting already!
If you see the Chinooks turning clockwise, your right hemisphere dominates: You are highly creative, you use your imagination, feelings and perception of space, you are sensitive to symbols and images, you enjoy exploring the future and thinking philosophically…(eg SAR crew)
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If you see the Chinooks turning anti clockwise, you use your left hemisphere:
You are a logical thinker, you rely on realism, words and language. you are attracted by maths and science, knowledge, and specifics. (eg SH crew)
If you can control the movement at will in either direction you are able to tap into the full power of your brain and are a genius. (eg Chinook crew)
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I take it you mean Darryl W+++++ks, yes a lot was borrowed from him as the first RA(A)F Chinook display pilot and his display was superb! I guess he set the standard everyone else had to try for.
I've been in touch with him this week and he says he might make it over for the dinner. Thanks again.
I've been in touch with him this week and he says he might make it over for the dinner. Thanks again.
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The display you posted was great to see - very impressive.
Just a quickie, is there an accelerometer fitted as standard to the Chinook? I appreciate that you won't be "pulling" much in the way of G, but as a (not very natural) FW-only pilot, knowing the amount of G being "used" in a manoevre gave me more reliable feedback into the tightness of a turn than just the feeing in "the seat of my pants". Also, where G limits were low it prevented an inadvertant over-stress from happening!
(Which usually meant a case of beer to the riggers and a "chat" with the flt cdr/boss
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Is it the same for a helo, or are you more governed by torque?
MB
MB
The display you posted was great to see - very impressive.
Just a quickie, is there an accelerometer fitted as standard to the Chinook? I appreciate that you won't be "pulling" much in the way of G, but as a (not very natural) FW-only pilot, knowing the amount of G being "used" in a manoevre gave me more reliable feedback into the tightness of a turn than just the feeing in "the seat of my pants". Also, where G limits were low it prevented an inadvertant over-stress from happening!
(Which usually meant a case of beer to the riggers and a "chat" with the flt cdr/boss
.)Is it the same for a helo, or are you more governed by torque?
MB
MB
Madbob,
Thanks. Helos, in general, don't routinely have 'g' meters fitted. Fatigue life is normally measured in hours due to the many moving parts. Torque through the gearboxes is the usual governing limit.
Thanks. Helos, in general, don't routinely have 'g' meters fitted. Fatigue life is normally measured in hours due to the many moving parts. Torque through the gearboxes is the usual governing limit.
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Gosh 30 years - it seems like yesterday. I checked my log book - first sortie 7 Jan 81. My next to last sortie in a Chinook was underslinging a Meteor NF14 to Aalbourg with 'Rats' in 93.
When you consider Chinook operations over the past 30 years (NI, FI, Lebanon, GW1, Bosnia, Sierra Leone, GW2, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya?) it is a shame something grander could not be done. After all there is enough high priced help around! Tis a shame Chinooks have been outplayed by the Puma boys. It is probably worth remembering that there is no other aircraft in the British Military that has taken part in front line operations in all these conflicts. Must be worth a Hangar Bash albeit belatedly.
On the subject of DW, I recall sitting in on his rehersals and on his run-in (always downwind) he used the Beoing V Max (173 kts metal bladed) so with a decent tailwind he got a groundspeed of close to 200kts
. His initial pullup was to 70 degrees nose up and at 40 kts full right pedal. Sometimes the rear end got a little transational lift and you ended up 90+ nose down. Truly great display
Happy days
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When you consider Chinook operations over the past 30 years (NI, FI, Lebanon, GW1, Bosnia, Sierra Leone, GW2, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya?) it is a shame something grander could not be done. After all there is enough high priced help around! Tis a shame Chinooks have been outplayed by the Puma boys. It is probably worth remembering that there is no other aircraft in the British Military that has taken part in front line operations in all these conflicts. Must be worth a Hangar Bash albeit belatedly.
On the subject of DW, I recall sitting in on his rehersals and on his run-in (always downwind) he used the Beoing V Max (173 kts metal bladed) so with a decent tailwind he got a groundspeed of close to 200kts
. His initial pullup was to 70 degrees nose up and at 40 kts full right pedal. Sometimes the rear end got a little transational lift and you ended up 90+ nose down. Truly great displayHappy days
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Originally Posted by Bertie Thrust
If you see the Chinooks turning clockwise, your right hemisphere dominates:
You are highly creative, you use your imagination, feelings and perception of space, you are sensitive to symbols and images, you enjoy exploring the future and thinking philosophically…(eg SAR crew)
.
If you see the Chinooks turning anti clockwise, you use your left hemisphere:
You are a logical thinker, you rely on realism, words and language. you are attracted by maths and science, knowledge, and specifics. (eg SH crew)
If you can control the movement at will in either direction you are able to tap into the full power of your brain and are a genius. (eg Chinook crew)
.
If you see the Chinooks turning anti clockwise, you use your left hemisphere:
You are a logical thinker, you rely on realism, words and language. you are attracted by maths and science, knowledge, and specifics. (eg SH crew)
If you can control the movement at will in either direction you are able to tap into the full power of your brain and are a genius. (eg Chinook crew)
Good luck with the knees up and hopefully there will be many, many more.
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Good luck with the function, shame I can't make it.
The hired help in the back have spent 30 years getting one over the O's so I'm sure they'll be content to miss this one. Perhaps it's time to come clean on one of my ruses way back in 85 at KG. Chocolate was a great bargaining tool to get shiney things off the army and due to our flying rate we got tons of the stuff on the aircrew rations (it was out of date and therefore really cheap). The crewmen of course ran the rations and picked up the choccie once a week, it was then divided into 5 equal boxes - one for each crewman and one for the O's. Once we had hidden our boxes away we gave the O's a call and they were delighted with the size of their box and went away happy. Ignorance is bliss
Chinook240 - Do you remember when the Boss's pristine Arctic Parka fell out of the centre hatch? Is that really 26 years ago, I'm not too bothered about losing my Tom Selleck tash but I would have liked to hang on to my hair.
The hired help in the back have spent 30 years getting one over the O's so I'm sure they'll be content to miss this one. Perhaps it's time to come clean on one of my ruses way back in 85 at KG. Chocolate was a great bargaining tool to get shiney things off the army and due to our flying rate we got tons of the stuff on the aircrew rations (it was out of date and therefore really cheap). The crewmen of course ran the rations and picked up the choccie once a week, it was then divided into 5 equal boxes - one for each crewman and one for the O's. Once we had hidden our boxes away we gave the O's a call and they were delighted with the size of their box and went away happy. Ignorance is bliss
Chinook240 - Do you remember when the Boss's pristine Arctic Parka fell out of the centre hatch? Is that really 26 years ago, I'm not too bothered about losing my Tom Selleck tash but I would have liked to hang on to my hair.
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NC, the other thing that comes with age - an inability to eat chocolate without ending up looking like Chubby Brown.
On another note the SAR boys produced a very nice book detailing 30 years of the Sea King - any plans for a Chinook equivalent? Don't know where they got the money from for it and it was before we realised that GB and his mates had sold us down the river. They sold the paddle made of gold as well!
On another note the SAR boys produced a very nice book detailing 30 years of the Sea King - any plans for a Chinook equivalent? Don't know where they got the money from for it and it was before we realised that GB and his mates had sold us down the river. They sold the paddle made of gold as well!
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Roger, if the chinook one is produced for the bash they can save a lot of money, as the bash seems to be cutting out the majority of the Air Force involved with the fleet over the 30 years, they could probably knock it out in under 5 pages.......
I can see it now, in XXXX the RAF bought the Chinook.... XYZ flew it in various places, the rest of the detritous does not count.......... The End.
Just like the website, at least the Reds or the BBMF mention the rest of the people involved, the Chinook one appears if it's all done by magic..
I can see it now, in XXXX the RAF bought the Chinook.... XYZ flew it in various places, the rest of the detritous does not count.......... The End.
Just like the website, at least the Reds or the BBMF mention the rest of the people involved, the Chinook one appears if it's all done by magic..
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Chinook240 - Thanks for posting display video, fantastic flyin'! The Chinook appeared incredibly graceful. Yaaahooo! have always wanted to fly a Chinook! Have 'borrowed' one of yours...nice!
Yaaahooo! have always wanted to fly a Chinook! Have 'borrowed' one of yours...nice!