Stealth UH60(?) used in OBL raid...
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Decade on and we are still none the wiser ...best kept secret since the F-117A,
https://theaviationist.com/2021/05/0...new-rendering/
https://theaviationist.com/2021/05/0...new-rendering/
I still say it was a red herring to let Pakistan off the hook for allowing the raid to go ahead.
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All we know is this tail part was left.
https://images.app.goo.gl/g8r7DyFDqVcgixRZ6
I never got why the rest of the aircraft should be so close to some pretty standard Blackhawk? If it is intended to be stealthy wouldn't the entire airframe need to be designed in some more radical way?
https://images.app.goo.gl/g8r7DyFDqVcgixRZ6
I never got why the rest of the aircraft should be so close to some pretty standard Blackhawk? If it is intended to be stealthy wouldn't the entire airframe need to be designed in some more radical way?
Decade on and we are still none the wiser ...best kept secret since the F-117A,
https://theaviationist.com/2021/05/0...new-rendering/
https://theaviationist.com/2021/05/0...new-rendering/
Some details of the stealthy Black Hawks from a new programme on Sky History channel.
Title:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14574560/
Revealed: The Hunt for Bin Laden
Lead Planner and Captain, US Navy SEAL.
"As the briefs went through the chain of command there was a sensitivity expressed on exposure to radars and discovery of the helicopters as the force was infiltrating. That shifted the conversation to using the Black Hawks that had some of the capabilities to defeat radar."
Command Master Chief, US Navy SEAL Team Six
"Very early on when we got out and saw them fly they were unstable, particularly when they came into hover and I said with all due respect I don't think that we should use these helicopters. The time to try something new is not on the most important raid arguably since WW2."
Lead Planner and Captain, US Navy SEAL.
"Another one of the factors that we had to take into account was that the aircrews flying the Black Hawks had been separate programme and didn't have a lot of time flying overseas."
Admiral McCraven, Commander Joint Special Operations Command
"..... those particular crews had been taken out of the fight for quite a while and really had just been part of research."
Title:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14574560/
Revealed: The Hunt for Bin Laden
Lead Planner and Captain, US Navy SEAL.
"As the briefs went through the chain of command there was a sensitivity expressed on exposure to radars and discovery of the helicopters as the force was infiltrating. That shifted the conversation to using the Black Hawks that had some of the capabilities to defeat radar."
Command Master Chief, US Navy SEAL Team Six
"Very early on when we got out and saw them fly they were unstable, particularly when they came into hover and I said with all due respect I don't think that we should use these helicopters. The time to try something new is not on the most important raid arguably since WW2."
Lead Planner and Captain, US Navy SEAL.
"Another one of the factors that we had to take into account was that the aircrews flying the Black Hawks had been separate programme and didn't have a lot of time flying overseas."
Admiral McCraven, Commander Joint Special Operations Command
"..... those particular crews had been taken out of the fight for quite a while and really had just been part of research."
Some details of the stealthy Black Hawks from a new programme on Sky History channel.
Title:
Revealed: The Hunt for Bin Laden
Lead Planner and Captain, US Navy SEAL.
"As the briefs went through the chain of command there was a sensitivity expressed on exposure to radars and discovery of the helicopters as the force was infiltrating. That shifted the conversation to using the Black Hawks that had some of the capabilities to defeat radar."
Command Master Chief, US Navy SEAL Team Six
"Very early on when we got out and saw them fly they were unstable, particularly when they came into hover and I said with all due respect I don't think that we should use these helicopters. The time to try something new is not on the most important raid arguably since WW2."
Lead Planner and Captain, US Navy SEAL.
"Another one of the factors that we had to take into account was that the aircrews flying the Black Hawks had been separate programme and didn't have a lot of time flying overseas."
Admiral McCraven, Commander Joint Special Operations Command
"..... those particular crews had been taken out of the fight for quite a while and really had just been part of research."
Title:
Revealed: The Hunt for Bin Laden
Lead Planner and Captain, US Navy SEAL.
"As the briefs went through the chain of command there was a sensitivity expressed on exposure to radars and discovery of the helicopters as the force was infiltrating. That shifted the conversation to using the Black Hawks that had some of the capabilities to defeat radar."
Command Master Chief, US Navy SEAL Team Six
"Very early on when we got out and saw them fly they were unstable, particularly when they came into hover and I said with all due respect I don't think that we should use these helicopters. The time to try something new is not on the most important raid arguably since WW2."
Lead Planner and Captain, US Navy SEAL.
"Another one of the factors that we had to take into account was that the aircrews flying the Black Hawks had been separate programme and didn't have a lot of time flying overseas."
Admiral McCraven, Commander Joint Special Operations Command
"..... those particular crews had been taken out of the fight for quite a while and really had just been part of research."
More here on the stealth specials - there were two - air quality inside the compound affecting lift available - pilot that managed to do the heavy landing had 6,000 hours on UH-60s
There was a forward refueling area in Pakistan for the return leg and that's where the backup helo for the extraction came from.
From 6:50 here:
There was a forward refueling area in Pakistan for the return leg and that's where the backup helo for the extraction came from.
From 6:50 here:
The forward refuelling area was visible on google maps for a while - with resident US helis of various types. I think it's safe to assume 160th SOAR and their friends were familiar with it.
Which Syria raid is that?
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Interesting, if true, although that may simply be a bit of artistic license.
I think all the images of the ones used in the OBL raid also had retractable gear - pretty much stealth 101 I’d say.
