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Gordon Brown warns closing RAF Leuchars could put Britain in danger - Scotsman.com News
One wonders how much credibility Gordon Brown has.
One wonders how much credibility Gordon Brown has.
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Why do I have the nagging feeling that this is just about the last thing Leuchars needs? Did he ever go to Leu when he was Chancellor or PM? Other than on a 32 Sqn jet to get home faster..... Just asking...
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From the BBC website this morning.
Leuchars is one of several bases in Scotland threatened by defence cuts.
But Armed Forces Minister Nick Harvey told MPs no base closure decisions had been taken yet.
The debate follows fears that the UK government's Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR) could spell the closure of RAF Leuchars, allowing RAF Lossiemouth in Moray to stay open.
During the debate, Sir Ming said there was an overriding case for the base to remain operational.
He told MPs: "In short, Leuchars is in the right place, at the right time and doing the right job.
"Geographically it is uniquely positioned to fulfil the responsibility for the air defence of the northern half of the United Kingdom, a responsibility which - even as we have this debate - it fulfils 24 hours a day."
Mr Harvey said decisions on the future of RAF bases would be taken as soon as possible.
He told MPs Leuchars carried out a crucial role, but pointed out that could be done from other RAF bases, including Lossiemouth in the north east.
Leuchars is one of several bases in Scotland threatened by defence cuts.
But Armed Forces Minister Nick Harvey told MPs no base closure decisions had been taken yet.
The debate follows fears that the UK government's Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR) could spell the closure of RAF Leuchars, allowing RAF Lossiemouth in Moray to stay open.
During the debate, Sir Ming said there was an overriding case for the base to remain operational.
He told MPs: "In short, Leuchars is in the right place, at the right time and doing the right job.
"Geographically it is uniquely positioned to fulfil the responsibility for the air defence of the northern half of the United Kingdom, a responsibility which - even as we have this debate - it fulfils 24 hours a day."
Mr Harvey said decisions on the future of RAF bases would be taken as soon as possible.
He told MPs Leuchars carried out a crucial role, but pointed out that could be done from other RAF bases, including Lossiemouth in the north east.
It also reported that Ming and Fox reckon Defence considerations are the overriding concerns, Cameron and Ozzy say the Finances are what its all about and the Chief Treasurer says Economic/Social considerations are what should come first.
Nice to know they've thrashed this Brain Teaser out to destruction!
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Nice to know they've thrashed this Brain Teaser out to destruction!
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Link to House of Commons text:
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2011-01-25a.265.0&s=Lossiemouth#g269.0
“Today, RAF Leuchars' mission is to deliver and maintain UK quick reaction alert (interceptor) north, concurrent with the growth of Typhoon, while supporting other military operations. The delivery of the northern element of quick reaction alert is RAF Leuchars' top priority and requires Typhoon and Tornado F3 fighter aircraft to hold high alert to scramble and intercept unidentified aircraft approaching UK airspace. RAF Leuchars is geographically well located for the delivery of QRA operations. However, it may be possible to mount northern QRA from another location. Lossiemouth and Leeming in north Yorkshire would be possible options.”
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2011-01-25a.265.0&s=Lossiemouth#g269.0
“Today, RAF Leuchars' mission is to deliver and maintain UK quick reaction alert (interceptor) north, concurrent with the growth of Typhoon, while supporting other military operations. The delivery of the northern element of quick reaction alert is RAF Leuchars' top priority and requires Typhoon and Tornado F3 fighter aircraft to hold high alert to scramble and intercept unidentified aircraft approaching UK airspace. RAF Leuchars is geographically well located for the delivery of QRA operations. However, it may be possible to mount northern QRA from another location. Lossiemouth and Leeming in north Yorkshire would be possible options.”
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With his well known 'fondness' for the Armed Forces, I doubt he's been to Leuchars much at all.....
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Gets my vote! In fact let's pull all of the military out of Scotland, let them have their independence, raise their own taxes and stop being a sucking chest wound on the UK economy.
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Please "moderate" racist nonsense of this thread.
I have no time for those who blame the Jocks, Irish, Welsh, Scousers, Geordies, Brummies etc for a situation that emerged from the "wealth creating" part of the UK. You know, the place where Bankers, Senior Politicians and the Service Chiefs live
I have no time for those who blame the Jocks, Irish, Welsh, Scousers, Geordies, Brummies etc for a situation that emerged from the "wealth creating" part of the UK. You know, the place where Bankers, Senior Politicians and the Service Chiefs live
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Hear Hear Draken old budy, all should think on, we are the United Kingdom.
It was the Royal Air Force which fought the Battle of Britain! Not the Royal English Air Force or just the English Air Force as is so often miss-implied.
I also have it on good authority, that Scotland is the component part of the UK which is, proportionately, most heavily subscribed to HM Forces.
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It was the Royal Air Force which fought the Battle of Britain! Not the Royal English Air Force or just the English Air Force as is so often miss-implied.
I also have it on good authority, that Scotland is the component part of the UK which is, proportionately, most heavily subscribed to HM Forces.
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Apparently Sir Ming said...
"Geographically it is uniquely positioned to fulfil the responsibility for the air defence of the northern half of the United Kingdom...."
Could somebody tell me how Leuchars is uniquely positioned, apart from the facts that it is:
a) The only RAF station at Leuchars
b) In Sir Mings constituency
I don't see how its geographic position is unique. Perhaps somebody should tell Sir Ming that we aren't using Spitfires to defend Edinburgh against He-111s any more.
If the threat, which is probably long range bombers with stand off missiles, is from the North, as opposed to Denmark, then Lossiemouth is approx 100 miles up threat, allowing interception either faster, or at a greater range from UK shores.
Perhaps Sir Ming should stick to the plain facts...
"Geographically it is uniquely positioned to fulfil the responsibility for the air defence of the northern half of the United Kingdom...."
Could somebody tell me how Leuchars is uniquely positioned, apart from the facts that it is:
a) The only RAF station at Leuchars
b) In Sir Mings constituency
I don't see how its geographic position is unique. Perhaps somebody should tell Sir Ming that we aren't using Spitfires to defend Edinburgh against He-111s any more.
If the threat, which is probably long range bombers with stand off missiles, is from the North, as opposed to Denmark, then Lossiemouth is approx 100 miles up threat, allowing interception either faster, or at a greater range from UK shores.
Perhaps Sir Ming should stick to the plain facts...
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Leuchars OM is uniquely close to Ma Bells and St. A's.... does this count? 
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Could somebody tell me how Leuchars is uniquely positioned, apart from the facts that it is:
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Hansard report on Tuesday's adjournment debate here:
House of Commons Hansard Debates for 25 Jan 2011 (pt 0003)
House of Commons Hansard Debates for 25 Jan 2011 (pt 0003)
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Visiting Leuchars OM in a few weeks time on a nightstop, and I'm not familiar with the area - is Ma Bells a decent watering hole?
I managed to work out what St A's is.....I'm not a total biff!
Visiting Leuchars OM in a few weeks time on a nightstop, and I'm not familiar with the area - is Ma Bells a decent watering hole?
I managed to work out what St A's is.....I'm not a total biff!