RN Sub run aground
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Hmmm.... but it was black smoke!
Oh, yes... the Church of England has to do the opposite of the Catholics... so where for the Vatican Black smoke signals failure to agree on a candidate and White smoke indicates a new Pope has been chosen, for the UK & CoE it should be the reverse?
I get it.
Oh, yes... the Church of England has to do the opposite of the Catholics... so where for the Vatican Black smoke signals failure to agree on a candidate and White smoke indicates a new Pope has been chosen, for the UK & CoE it should be the reverse?
I get it.
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Bishop: [emergency venting goes off] That's it. Emergency venting.
Hudson: [knows what it is] Ho, that's beautiful, man. Oh man, that that... that just beats it all...
Hicks: How long 'til it blows?
Bishop: Four hours. With a blast radius of 30 kilometers; equal to about 40 megatons.
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Cdr Andy Coles's desk at MOD Navy no doubt awaits!!
With apols to Andy Stewart ..
I've just come down from the Isle of Skye
There was a sub up there, high and dry
All the matelots sang 'Och Aye'
Andy, where's our sonar!!
Only pride and the nation's purse were hurt
With apols to Andy Stewart ..
I've just come down from the Isle of Skye
There was a sub up there, high and dry
All the matelots sang 'Och Aye'
Andy, where's our sonar!!
Only pride and the nation's purse were hurt
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Do they use paper charts on boats or are the now digital?
At the risk of stating the obvious, it's difficult to comprehend how a UK submarine could have achieved this. Good design and average command skills, or average design and good command skills should have ensured that this did not occur.
GBP1,000,000,000 of someone's tax money and they managed to get it stuck. Words fail me.
This may have helped.....
OSI Geospatial Signs UK Navy Submarine WECDIS Software Supply Contract - ASDNews
"OSI Geospatial's software was chosen for the UK Royal Navy's most advanced nuclear attack submarine after critical analysis determined that the unique features of ECPINS(R) W (Sub) provide the submariner with a clear tactical advantage in both open ocean as well as the complex littoral battlespace."
...not sure they are as cheap as £1Bn each....
OSI Geospatial Signs UK Navy Submarine WECDIS Software Supply Contract - ASDNews
"OSI Geospatial's software was chosen for the UK Royal Navy's most advanced nuclear attack submarine after critical analysis determined that the unique features of ECPINS(R) W (Sub) provide the submariner with a clear tactical advantage in both open ocean as well as the complex littoral battlespace."
...not sure they are as cheap as £1Bn each....
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Let's, as they say, get real here. The boat has to have been out of control due to some finger trouble during tests and drifted/was blown onto the shoal - is that what they call them?
No doubt the Navy will release more info tomorrow but out of date charts will not be part of the equation. Any takers?
No doubt the Navy will release more info tomorrow but out of date charts will not be part of the equation. Any takers?
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I seem to remember a local fisherman being interviewed saying the sub was the wrong side of a couple of buoys indicating the problem . . .
Ooops - is port left or right . . . . ?
Ooops - is port left or right . . . . ?
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I lived up that way in the summers when I was a lad, and the Isle of Skye has been where it is now for some time.
Exactly how far out of date could the charts be?
Exactly how far out of date could the charts be?
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For those who have been asking what the smoke was coming out of the top of the fin, I can explain.
What you saw is the exhaust fumes from what is known as the snort exhaust mast. Although the reactor is the primary means of producing power onboard - its nothing more than a posh kettle - there is a fall back to produce electrical power from the diesel generators.
As well as having a snort exhaust mast there is also a need for a snort induction mast to allow air to be induced into the boat as it needs to be able to, if necessary, "snort" submerged.
The point of the DG's is to produce power to essential services. It does not mean, nor do I infer, that the reactor was shut down. It could just as easily mean that the DG's were running, but kept offline.
If you want to know more there is a couple of good photos of the snort masts at
Radio Research Paper - Victoria Class
These are the ex- UK Upholder class diesel/electric boats that the Canadians purchased
What you saw is the exhaust fumes from what is known as the snort exhaust mast. Although the reactor is the primary means of producing power onboard - its nothing more than a posh kettle - there is a fall back to produce electrical power from the diesel generators.
As well as having a snort exhaust mast there is also a need for a snort induction mast to allow air to be induced into the boat as it needs to be able to, if necessary, "snort" submerged.
The point of the DG's is to produce power to essential services. It does not mean, nor do I infer, that the reactor was shut down. It could just as easily mean that the DG's were running, but kept offline.
If you want to know more there is a couple of good photos of the snort masts at
Radio Research Paper - Victoria Class
These are the ex- UK Upholder class diesel/electric boats that the Canadians purchased
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Had anyone been able to answer if she has been "signed" for ?
As all the reports mention she won't officialy be in navy service till next year???
With the way things is going for the MoD, she is probably going to have to be repaired at taxpayers expense !
But fingers crossed it's at contractors expense
As all the reports mention she won't officialy be in navy service till next year???
With the way things is going for the MoD, she is probably going to have to be repaired at taxpayers expense !
But fingers crossed it's at contractors expense
Oh, yes... the Church of England has to do the opposite of the Catholics... so where for the Vatican Black smoke signals failure to agree on a candidate and White smoke indicates a new Pope has been chosen, for the UK & CoE it should be the reverse?
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With the way things is going for the MoD, she is probably going to have to be repaired at taxpayers expense !
But fingers crossed it's at contractors expense
But fingers crossed it's at contractors expense
Why the heck should the Contractor pay?????????