F-35 Cancelled, then what ?
Different horses for courses.
Indeed.
And the Norwegian "commitment" to 52 aircraft is contingent on a substantial budget increase, which (given oil prices and Norwegian politics) may call to mind a vulgar observation regarding my auntie, and under what hypothetical circumstances she might be my uncle.
Indeed.
And the Norwegian "commitment" to 52 aircraft is contingent on a substantial budget increase, which (given oil prices and Norwegian politics) may call to mind a vulgar observation regarding my auntie, and under what hypothetical circumstances she might be my uncle.
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Going with the internet chatter, I would have posted this.
BUT THEN
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...r-f-35-417416/
“Absolutely, we’re looking at concepts for the integration of a laser weapon onto the F-35,” the Lockheed senior fellow for laser and sensor systems said at a media briefing 5 October.
BUT THEN
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...r-f-35-417416/
“Absolutely, we’re looking at concepts for the integration of a laser weapon onto the F-35,” the Lockheed senior fellow for laser and sensor systems said at a media briefing 5 October.
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a1bill,
Lasers Could Be Coming To The F-35 - Defense One
Hopefully, they are thinking of mounting it pointed aft. That way it might help to prevent air to airs from going up the tailpipe when fleeing the combat zone, out of defensive ammo and at less than ideal speed. Should be an inexpensive option, one imagines.
“Absolutely, we’re looking at concepts for the integration of a l@ser weapon onto the F-35,” the Lockheed senior fellow for l@ser and sensor systems said at a media briefing 5 October.
Hopefully, they are thinking of mounting it pointed aft. That way it might help to prevent air to airs from going up the tailpipe when fleeing the combat zone, out of defensive ammo and at less than ideal speed. Should be an inexpensive option, one imagines.
I seem to recall some musings about the shaft for the fan on the B prodcusing something like 18,000 HP which could spin a pretty good size generator....And I though the clutch on my old VW van had it rough....
This is Fifth Gen ... we can turn it up to 11!
The problem is that the "next" l@ser - >150 kW and <3,500 lbs - won't fit, and by the time we get to the l@ser-after-next (fractional-megawatt and <2,000 lbs) the nature of air combat will have changed dramatically.
Power may be an issue too, especially during a phase of flight when the Captain is diverting all available power to the forward shields. Looking forward to lasers getting smaller, but you'll still need to find all those kilowatts.
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As sandiego89 said, there is 18,000 shaft hp to generate some Kw on the F-35b.
Those that know, seem to focus on the generation unit heat being the problem.
LO, you keep telling me how heavy the f-35b fan and engine system is, what is the weight of just the fan system?
Other than on the 6th gen gripen that a laser weapon would make it 10th gen. Can you also tell me more about the future. When lasers on fighters are in question because "the nature of air combat will have changed dramatically" I would love to know what will be the weapon systems then.
on another topic.
Those that know, seem to focus on the generation unit heat being the problem.
LO, you keep telling me how heavy the f-35b fan and engine system is, what is the weight of just the fan system?
Other than on the 6th gen gripen that a laser weapon would make it 10th gen. Can you also tell me more about the future. When lasers on fighters are in question because "the nature of air combat will have changed dramatically" I would love to know what will be the weapon systems then.
on another topic.
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@Lonewolf_50 I think skis come in block 5 
I don't know how to change the picture, it's a link from AW.
http://aviationweek.com/site-files/a...heedMartin.jpg
@malcrf, it was just that I think LO excelled himself. We can always rely on LO in his use of sublimation with anything associated with the F-35. To say "The problem is that the "next" l@ser - >150 kW and <3,500 lbs - won't fit, and by the time we get to the l@ser-after-next (fractional-megawatt and <2,000 lbs) the nature of air combat will have changed dramatically." has to be one of the classics and deserved a special mention.
I don't know how to change the picture, it's a link from AW.
http://aviationweek.com/site-files/a...heedMartin.jpg
@malcrf, it was just that I think LO excelled himself. We can always rely on LO in his use of sublimation with anything associated with the F-35. To say "The problem is that the "next" l@ser - >150 kW and <3,500 lbs - won't fit, and by the time we get to the l@ser-after-next (fractional-megawatt and <2,000 lbs) the nature of air combat will have changed dramatically." has to be one of the classics and deserved a special mention.
Sublimation?
Are you talking about "the process of transforming libido into socially useful achievements, including artistic, cultural and intellectual pursuits"?
Or possibly "the transition of a substance directly from the solid to the gas phase without passing through the intermediate liquid phase"?
Or are you just using long words (defined in your case as anything with more than three letters) without having the slightest idea of what they mean?
Are you talking about "the process of transforming libido into socially useful achievements, including artistic, cultural and intellectual pursuits"?
Or possibly "the transition of a substance directly from the solid to the gas phase without passing through the intermediate liquid phase"?
Or are you just using long words (defined in your case as anything with more than three letters) without having the slightest idea of what they mean?
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The displacement of your hate that is fixated on the F-35, the discounting of anything associated with it acted out. I think your post of the futility of developing a Laser to be fitted, because the nature of air combat will have changed dramatically. I think that is bordering on being an outer fringe dweller.
Would you like to talk about how you try to rationalise now? (sour grapes)
Would you like to talk about how you try to rationalise now? (sour grapes)
You mean "cat", "dog" and "airplane", CM?
And for clarification of the original point: A l@ser does not require dynamic tracking of the target, has 100 per cent of its range and lethality independent of the target's orientation with respect to my airplane's datum, and may have complete spherical coverage,
Once I have the range and rate-of-fire to defeat any conceivable kinetic threat (that is, the largest salvo that my adversary can throw against my platform or formation), what does my ideal weapon platform look like?
And for clarification of the original point: A l@ser does not require dynamic tracking of the target, has 100 per cent of its range and lethality independent of the target's orientation with respect to my airplane's datum, and may have complete spherical coverage,
Once I have the range and rate-of-fire to defeat any conceivable kinetic threat (that is, the largest salvo that my adversary can throw against my platform or formation), what does my ideal weapon platform look like?