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F-35 Cancelled, then what ?

Old 30th Jun 2014, 21:57
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Perhaps a 600kt pass and a hover in the same display? Clutching at straws to answer your question CM.
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Old 30th Jun 2014, 22:10
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I've said it before but, if it's the same 'demo' that was performed at MCAS Yuma a couple of months back, it's as dull as ditch water! Still, I imagine the majority will just be glad to see what the GOV/MOD is spunking away £billions on...

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Old 1st Jul 2014, 20:01
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Sea Vixen instead of F-35B ?

Flypast for the naming ceremony 4th July for HMS Queen Elizabeth ?
A very fitting alternative.

British F-35B Not Yet Ready for Crossing | Farnborough 2014 content from Aviation Week

I remember when whatever MoD was called then, announced an order for 100 Sea Vixens for £20 million - Super-Priority Production it was called.

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Old 1st Jul 2014, 20:13
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Maybe they can convince the audience that the radical-looking twin-boom jet overhead is the latest secret British stealth fighter.
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Old 1st Jul 2014, 21:05
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This was always going to be either a great PR victory or, if even the slightest thing went wrong, a disaster. No middle ground here. It would not be good if the UK jet doesn't make it. I would guess they're pulling out all the stops.

One point about the article. How can it be a "historic" crossing if it hasn't happened yet?
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Old 1st Jul 2014, 21:19
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Would they not have been better off not saying anything and just saying
4 x F-35's would make the crossing and leave it at that and then if the British one made it, even better ?

No raised expectations and better PR if it came off.
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Old 1st Jul 2014, 22:45
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Or forward-deploy a painting team to Fairford...
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Old 1st Jul 2014, 22:47
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An even better idea !
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Old 1st Jul 2014, 23:14
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So the HMS QE naming ceremony will have a flypast from this nice old machine:





Of course, one of these would have been even better !





Back to the Future !
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 00:58
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Won't need to see the '35 display.

I'll hear it from home. 111.57 miles away.
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 05:31
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The USMC F-35 pilot who flew on Monday at Yeovilton seemed to think they would make it over this week.
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 08:15
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I wonder what William Hills are offering.
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 08:29
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Originally Posted by Courtney
Something to look forward to! Hopefully for most, it will just be enough to see the F-35. What "unique aspects" that the Harrier couldn't do?
There's me looking forward to an energetic QRA takeoff ... rotating at the end of the runway and departing vertical on a full AB plume ... levelling off at FL Nose Bleed ... then returning for a few very Fast Passes with plenty of G in the horizontal turns ... followed by some nice Inverted Flight down the runway CL. Forget car alarms ... I was hoping for plenty of local structural damage ... greenhouses getting airborne and enough noise to clear the earwax out of the anti-mil-low-flying NIMBY community.

So looking a bit disappointing then

You have to give "Godders" a thought though ... It must be difficult to be our F-35 Desk Officer and please everyone when undertaking a milestone event like this.
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 09:56
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To be honest, Coff, I'm just hoping they make it here and actually fly. It would be a disaster for Hugh if he didn't make it.
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 11:13
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Maybe we will get a fly-off between the F-35 and the AV8-B
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 21:43
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Exclusive: U.S., UK officials prepare inspection order for all F-35s | Reuters
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 23:04
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I'm thinking of picking up a case of these and hand-delivering them to the JSFPO up on 12th Street....

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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 23:13
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Oh. Thanks for the post, Spaz, but not what we needed to hear. Where are your good news posts when we need them?
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 23:45
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So what where saying is, it looks as if instead of being a fundamental problem with the aircraft, its a engine or component QA problem. Wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last.
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Old 3rd Jul 2014, 11:58
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It's a bit late in the game to be discovering fundamental problems. (They are there, but known about, and at least don't inhibit flight.) On the other hand, reliability issues are a and it can take a long time and a lot of investment to sort them out and bring operating costs under control.
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