Russian special forces in dawn raid on oil tanker pirates
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"I am referring to the fact that many ships are said to to be hijacked to order (read: insurance jobs) which is why they are traveling slowly, near to the coast, have crews who may know the pirates and and do not put up resistance."
Do you have a source for this?
Most crews do not put up resistance have we have no fire arms and no training for combat. Before boarding there are various methods, as in the Bank line cargo ship, to deter pirates, but once onboard the best chance is a "safe area" for everyone to use, and shout for help via some comms in the safe area.
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"I am referring to the fact that many ships are said to to be hijacked to order (read: insurance jobs) which is why they are traveling slowly, near to the coast, have crews who may know the pirates and and do not put up resistance."
Do you have a source for this?
Most crews do not put up resistance have we have no fire arms and no training for combat. Before boarding there are various methods, as in the Bank line cargo ship, to deter pirates, but once onboard the best chance is a "safe area" for everyone to use, and shout for help via some comms in the safe area.
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Excuse me stating the obvious but Somalia is only one of many unstable countries in the world. We, whoever that may be, cannot impose any kind of democracy, and all that means, to any of them let alone specially chosen ones (Afghanistan comes to mind).
If anyone remembers the board game called Risk, then that provides the solution...word domination by one power. Then again pigs may fly.
So if we can't have any of the above I contend that we should take whatever measures are necessary to protect our livlihood, and if part of that "protectionism" is to hunt down and kill pirates, so be it. But then again I always was a softy.
If anyone remembers the board game called Risk, then that provides the solution...word domination by one power. Then again pigs may fly.
So if we can't have any of the above I contend that we should take whatever measures are necessary to protect our livlihood, and if part of that "protectionism" is to hunt down and kill pirates, so be it. But then again I always was a softy.
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New Government policy?????? I do hope so
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Navy crew destroys pirate boats
A Royal Navy crew has destroyed two suspected pirate boats off the east coast of Africa.
The crew of warship HMS Chatham's Lynx helicopter spotted a larger vessel towing two smaller attack boats 150 miles off the coast of Tanzania, in the Somali Basin, on Friday.
A Royal Marine team, travelling in fast-boats, stormed the larger craft and found 10 Somalis and a large amount of fuel on board.
The suspected pirates were seen throwing items, including weapons, into the sea.
The two smaller attack boats were fitted with powerful engines and contained a considerable amount of fuel, the Royal Navy said.
The marines separated the smaller boats from the larger craft, before HMS Chatham and the Lynx helicopter used their combined firepower to blow up the smaller boats.
The 10 Somalis were left with only enough fuel in the larger vessel to return to Somalia.
Commander Simon Huntington, commanding officer of HMS Chatham, said: "I am extremely pleased that we have again successfully disrupted a suspected pirate attack group operating in the Somali Basin and prevented them from mounting attacks against merchant shipping."
The Lynx helicopter was taking part in a coordinated search with a EU Naval Force Maritime Patrol Aircraft (MPA), operating out of the Seychelles, when it spotted the suspected pirates.
A Royal Navy crew has destroyed two suspected pirate boats off the east coast of Africa.
The crew of warship HMS Chatham's Lynx helicopter spotted a larger vessel towing two smaller attack boats 150 miles off the coast of Tanzania, in the Somali Basin, on Friday.
A Royal Marine team, travelling in fast-boats, stormed the larger craft and found 10 Somalis and a large amount of fuel on board.
The suspected pirates were seen throwing items, including weapons, into the sea.
The two smaller attack boats were fitted with powerful engines and contained a considerable amount of fuel, the Royal Navy said.
The marines separated the smaller boats from the larger craft, before HMS Chatham and the Lynx helicopter used their combined firepower to blow up the smaller boats.
The 10 Somalis were left with only enough fuel in the larger vessel to return to Somalia.
Commander Simon Huntington, commanding officer of HMS Chatham, said: "I am extremely pleased that we have again successfully disrupted a suspected pirate attack group operating in the Somali Basin and prevented them from mounting attacks against merchant shipping."
The Lynx helicopter was taking part in a coordinated search with a EU Naval Force Maritime Patrol Aircraft (MPA), operating out of the Seychelles, when it spotted the suspected pirates.
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The Lynx helicopter was taking part in a coordinated search with a EU Naval Force Maritime Patrol Aircraft (MPA), operating out of the Seychelles, when it spotted the suspected pirates.
This seems very similar to what the RFS MARSHAL SHAPOSHNIKOV did. Pehaps Sambo the Sailor will make it shoreside this time, though.
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What the West is doing wrong with the pirates could be mirrored in recent events in Korea. The North torpedoes a South Korean naval vessel and kills 46 sailors.
After how many weeks, (or is it months?), the South announces something along the lines of "if you do that again, we'll retaliate".
C'mon, South Korea, let's get real. Such a pussy response to people like the North Koreans is akin to removing the excess fuel from a pirate mother ship and sending those naughty pirates home with just enough fuel (plus reserves) - and will be seen by the North Koreans in the same light as the pirates undoubtedly saw the RN response, as a total joke.
The pirates and the North Koreans understand only one common language and only one "King's Regulation" (to quote 'Breaker' Morant) - KR .303 (or it's NATO equivalent, KR 7.62).
We are past risking being perceived as a joke because we already are perceived to be a joke, both by the pirates and the North Koreans, because our leaders aren't willing to face them down - and if they (the other side) don't blink, (as they surely won't after the horribly mixed messages our inaction and pussy footing over the last few years have given them) to take the argument to its logical conclusion.
After how many weeks, (or is it months?), the South announces something along the lines of "if you do that again, we'll retaliate".
C'mon, South Korea, let's get real. Such a pussy response to people like the North Koreans is akin to removing the excess fuel from a pirate mother ship and sending those naughty pirates home with just enough fuel (plus reserves) - and will be seen by the North Koreans in the same light as the pirates undoubtedly saw the RN response, as a total joke.
The pirates and the North Koreans understand only one common language and only one "King's Regulation" (to quote 'Breaker' Morant) - KR .303 (or it's NATO equivalent, KR 7.62).
We are past risking being perceived as a joke because we already are perceived to be a joke, both by the pirates and the North Koreans, because our leaders aren't willing to face them down - and if they (the other side) don't blink, (as they surely won't after the horribly mixed messages our inaction and pussy footing over the last few years have given them) to take the argument to its logical conclusion.
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I think there a more than a few people out here in cyberspace who'd rather have seen the RN do what the Russians seem to have done with 'their' pirates - put 'em in an inflatable with no motor a very long way from the coast.
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What the Russians really did with most of the pirates.
http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html
(The link below works!)
Subject: Russian Navy captures Somalian pirates.
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This is part of the videotape showing the Russian Navy commandos on theSomalian pirate ship.You may remember that the pirates captured a Russianoil tanker. The EuroUnion navy that patrols these waters could not interferebecause there could be casualties.
All explanations are in Russian and, with a single exception when a woundedpirate tells something in English, all conversations are between thecommandos - in Russian. Sorry if you don't understand Russian but thepictures speak for themselves.
The soldiers freed their compatriots, moved all the pirates to their own(pirate) ship, searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives, and tookseven Somalian pirates. Then they left the ship and exploded it with allremaining pirates on it.
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Go to www.mschoa.org for information / press releases from EUNAVFOR at Northwood.
Low Flier,
That'll be Johann Hari, the left-wing plagiarist?
Johann Hari: left-wing commentator in plagiarism row - Telegraph
There was also an interesting article in The Independent last year.
Johann Hari: left-wing commentator in plagiarism row - Telegraph
