Aircrew watch
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Anchor supplies normally sell them, thought they have nil stock at the moment, see
Quartz Wrist Watches
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you can buy similar though
Seiko Chronograph SNDA27P1 - First Class Watches: Seiko Watches, Citizen, D&G, Rotary, Calvin K, Police and more
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you can buy similar though
Seiko Chronograph SNDA27P1 - First Class Watches: Seiko Watches, Citizen, D&G, Rotary, Calvin K, Police and more
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That is the exact pulsar I am wearing right now. It can easily gain 1 or 2 seconds per week, and the luminous points are not exactly the best either.
That said, it is a good accessory for my help for heroes watch strap, and sets it off nicely
That is the exact pulsar I am wearing right now. It can easily gain 1 or 2 seconds per week, and the luminous points are not exactly the best either.
That said, it is a good accessory for my help for heroes watch strap, and sets it off nicely
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I'm really grateful for all of the replies to my thread, thanks very much.
Daf Hucker - yes that's exactly the type, hence my huge disapointment in not being able to find another very easily.
I'm not a huge fan of the Pulsar replacement, so I shall try and make do with my 200 rupee Casio from Delhi, or B Word's suggestion, until the new aircrew watch is released, and then try to buy one of those.
I know it's irrational, but I'm still bloody annoyed. That was my last tangible reminder of the ten years, 3500 flying hours, and several friends killed whilst I was in the RAF; plus more importantly I suspect, the main reason that I got so many snogs from girls on the 8 o'clock bus into Doncaster on a Thursday night !
All those memories, and unless I have been targetted by an international gang of flying clothing thieves, I suspect the chap who took it will only get a few quid for it in the pub ! Bast**d.
Cheers guys, and thanks again.
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... Ah, almost forgot to mention ... Pontius, or rather Presumptious Navigator, thanks for the reply; but my issued aircrew watch was PAID FOR as a lost item on leaving the service. What was it called at 6 FTS, personal integrity, ... feel free to PM me an apology old boy !
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Daf Hucker - yes that's exactly the type, hence my huge disapointment in not being able to find another very easily.
I'm not a huge fan of the Pulsar replacement, so I shall try and make do with my 200 rupee Casio from Delhi, or B Word's suggestion, until the new aircrew watch is released, and then try to buy one of those.
I know it's irrational, but I'm still bloody annoyed. That was my last tangible reminder of the ten years, 3500 flying hours, and several friends killed whilst I was in the RAF; plus more importantly I suspect, the main reason that I got so many snogs from girls on the 8 o'clock bus into Doncaster on a Thursday night !
All those memories, and unless I have been targetted by an international gang of flying clothing thieves, I suspect the chap who took it will only get a few quid for it in the pub ! Bast**d.
Cheers guys, and thanks again.
MOT
... Ah, almost forgot to mention ... Pontius, or rather Presumptious Navigator, thanks for the reply; but my issued aircrew watch was PAID FOR as a lost item on leaving the service. What was it called at 6 FTS, personal integrity, ... feel free to PM me an apology old boy !
MOT
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I had to buy a brand new aircrew watch to hand back, too.
Mine was a very cheap wind-up one, issued in 1977 at BFTS. It disappeared during an TTF NBC trial, somewhere in a farmer's field in RAFG, when I had to carry out a suit change alongside my aircraft, parked in long grass. It went out of the door and dressed in my AR5 and constrained by carrying the "hissing handbag" I couldn't find it before I had to take off again on task.
Although the one issued would have cost about £16, the one I had to pay for cost me £85 and then I had to hand it back very shortly afterwards on leaving the service, after nearly 20 years.
Mine was a very cheap wind-up one, issued in 1977 at BFTS. It disappeared during an TTF NBC trial, somewhere in a farmer's field in RAFG, when I had to carry out a suit change alongside my aircraft, parked in long grass. It went out of the door and dressed in my AR5 and constrained by carrying the "hissing handbag" I couldn't find it before I had to take off again on task.
Although the one issued would have cost about £16, the one I had to pay for cost me £85 and then I had to hand it back very shortly afterwards on leaving the service, after nearly 20 years.
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Why did you do that? Report it lost on ops. The book says that if it is due to negligence, you pay the current replacement cost. That is adjustable downwards, though, as part of your current kit's life had expired. Your's doesn't sound like negligence.
In the 70's they were issuing Omegas, which sounded good but were in fact rubbish - at least mine was. I soon took to leaving mine in the sock drawer and wearing my £10 HK bought Seiko, which was more accurate and had the additional advantage of being self-wind. Never been impressed with "name" watches since then - got an issue Pulsar for £50 off ebay for daily use and it's good enough for me.
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Report it lost on ops.
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Lost Aircrew Watches
In my day (the late 50s), the issue watch was an Omega. It kept pretty good time but the second hand didn't stop when the resetting knob was pulled out which made time hacks pretty tricky. Part of the unwritten bale-out drill was to remove watch once stabilised in the parachute, put it in your pocket and swear it came off during ejection. I didn't have to bang out during my 35 years in the mob so I had to hand the watch back in on leaving having worn it throughout my service. Got to keep my "patches rifle 1" though -worn to protect your No 1 when on armed parade- so it wasn't all bad!
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I believe all these watches have been withdrawn from service due to the loose articles hazard caused by the winding bezel falling off.
Must be a job lot somewhere just waiting to be sold off.....
Must be a job lot somewhere just waiting to be sold off.....
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wahwah64. Did you select that name or was it assigned? Either way, congratulations.
Considering that the reported event was such a cataclysmic hazard to flying safety, it is interesting that there is no clear evidence of a Stores Defect Report being submitted. Anyway, some of you chaps could break cannon balls.
A sample of previous iterations of this popular hamster wheel at;
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/224740-aircrew-watches.html
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/370093-seiko-gen-2-a.html?highlight=pulsar+watch
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/263081-mod-pattern-seiko-watch.html?highlight=pulsar+watch
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/288039-current-issue-watch-raf-aircrew-2.html?highlight=pulsar+watch
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/127866-maybe-boring-watch-question.html?highlight=pulsar+watch
Considering that the reported event was such a cataclysmic hazard to flying safety, it is interesting that there is no clear evidence of a Stores Defect Report being submitted. Anyway, some of you chaps could break cannon balls.
A sample of previous iterations of this popular hamster wheel at;
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/224740-aircrew-watches.html
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/370093-seiko-gen-2-a.html?highlight=pulsar+watch
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/263081-mod-pattern-seiko-watch.html?highlight=pulsar+watch
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/288039-current-issue-watch-raf-aircrew-2.html?highlight=pulsar+watch
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/127866-maybe-boring-watch-question.html?highlight=pulsar+watch
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I thought I'd lost my old stylee watch so I went to stores and was charged £35 for one of the new type that we are not allowed to wear anymore. I've since found my old one so I can I put that on Ebay for squillions since I've bought a replacement or are the feds going to come knocking at my door?
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Serious question folks; does anyone have a reference/link to the order that a particular current watch should not be used please? I ask that because the chap who manages that store range is not aware of any limitations.
PMs on the subject will be gladly accepted.
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PMs on the subject will be gladly accepted.
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GBZ, Yes, let's just say that OC Supply was anti-aircrew.
I wonder if it was the same OC Supply who was asked to write-off a wrist watch that suffered "fire & smoke" damage when the wearer left it his locker in the sqn's flying clothing section whilst he went on leave. Come on guys, who would leave their watch in their locker whilst they went on leave?
The same OC Supply was asked to write-off some NVG goggles "irretrieveably lost over-board" off one of Grey Funnel Lines flat-tops...only for them to turn up in a second-hand shop in Scotland. Perhaps that gave him a reason to treat such write-off requests with some caution.
Going back to the one you lost on a trial, it's instances like that which give stackers a bad name. Common sense should have prevailed and it should have been struck-off as being "lost during the period of aircraft operation " as defined in the AP 320..(?) and a free replacement issued. Whoever dealt with it supply-wise didn't know their job!
I've read this thread with interest as amongst other things, I collect british aircrew watches.
The issue Gen 1 Seiko aircrew watch has a very nice jewled and adjustable quartz movement. The Gen 2 watch has a normal quartz movement but is not a bad watch.
You can buy two (maybe three) very nice civi Seikos for the price of a used ex-MOD Gen 2 Seiko, so unless you really HAVE to have an ex-MOD Seiko (usually without a guarrantee) I'd get onto Ebay (very good prices on Seiko chronographs) and look at the wide range there.
You can keep it on the stainless bracelet or get a nylon 'NATO' strap for it later.
cheers,
-John
The issue Gen 1 Seiko aircrew watch has a very nice jewled and adjustable quartz movement. The Gen 2 watch has a normal quartz movement but is not a bad watch.
You can buy two (maybe three) very nice civi Seikos for the price of a used ex-MOD Gen 2 Seiko, so unless you really HAVE to have an ex-MOD Seiko (usually without a guarrantee) I'd get onto Ebay (very good prices on Seiko chronographs) and look at the wide range there.
You can keep it on the stainless bracelet or get a nylon 'NATO' strap for it later.
cheers,
-John
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Just out of interest is there a replacement for the Pulsar chrono out now. i heard its another Seiko?
Is the CWC G10 2000 still issued , the model with the date function and snap on back or is it just the standard CWC G10 with the battery hatch?
Cheers
Is the CWC G10 2000 still issued , the model with the date function and snap on back or is it just the standard CWC G10 with the battery hatch?
Cheers
Hi 311,
from what I have heard it will be a Seiko, there's no official line as to the issue date yet though. Not sure about the G10 2000 right now, I do know of some who have ended up with the older G10 (battery hatch) when they were issued a watch though.
I'll see what I can find out,
cheers,
-John
from what I have heard it will be a Seiko, there's no official line as to the issue date yet though. Not sure about the G10 2000 right now, I do know of some who have ended up with the older G10 (battery hatch) when they were issued a watch though.
I'll see what I can find out,
cheers,
-John
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I lost my Seiko about 8 years ago and never got round to replacing it.
If i 'fess up' now, what hoop-jumping (ie grovelling apologies/reasons in writing to Logs Officer/XO/the Good Lord) will be required and what is the replacement cost likely to be? If i am going to have to hand back an aircrew watch at some point when i leave, i may as well get one again..
If i 'fess up' now, what hoop-jumping (ie grovelling apologies/reasons in writing to Logs Officer/XO/the Good Lord) will be required and what is the replacement cost likely to be? If i am going to have to hand back an aircrew watch at some point when i leave, i may as well get one again..
Hi CB,
as far as I know all MOD issue watches still come with the grey nylon G10/NATO type strap 'NSN 6645-99-527-7059 DEF STAN 66-47 ISSUE 2'.
(Issued since 1992).
And yes,
it does seem odd when the above nylon strap was issued after the earlier brown combination strap with the leather bit '6645-99-527-7059 DEF STAN 66-15 (PART 2)'. (Issued from the early 1970s until 1992).
The leather backing was meant to protect the wrist from the melting nylon strap during a cockpit fire!
cheers,
-John
as far as I know all MOD issue watches still come with the grey nylon G10/NATO type strap 'NSN 6645-99-527-7059 DEF STAN 66-47 ISSUE 2'.
(Issued since 1992).
And yes,
it does seem odd when the above nylon strap was issued after the earlier brown combination strap with the leather bit '6645-99-527-7059 DEF STAN 66-15 (PART 2)'. (Issued from the early 1970s until 1992).
The leather backing was meant to protect the wrist from the melting nylon strap during a cockpit fire!
cheers,
-John
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