Alexluis

So, the IOT is already the flying training?


Alex

Wader2

IOT is Initial Officer Training which is as it says on the tin and is the same across all branches. As far as age goes, your start date at IOT is when the clock stops. At your age this is not a problem.

If you look at Snoopy's answer that will give you the time frames. Obviously you would only expect FJ, Multi or RW and not all of them. That said there may be some instances where a pilot is switched from one to the other during training.

What Snoopy did not mention was the OCU, operational conversion unit will follow the advanced training and that may be about 6 months more. After that you have a further 6 months or so operational workup on your front line squadron before your wings are confirmed and you escape the training system.

If you add in minimal holds and gaps to synchronise courses you may be operational 4 years after you walk in the door.

snoopy1107

Hi Alex,

Sadly no there will be no flying done at IOT.

IOT or Initial Officer Training is split into three terms; each term is aimed to develop your military skills, leadership, management and teamwork. It is all geared into giving you the tools to grow into an excellent Officer.

There will be exercises like 'Peacekeeper' which requires you to pull together everything you have learned, there are also Station visits so you can see how the RAF works on a day to day basis.

You seem really keen, keep working away, keep asking questions and you'll be fine fella. Good Luck

Snoopy

snoopy1107

Good Afternoon All,

I was wondering if any of you guys in the know are able to tell me the future role of Nav's in the RAF. With the Typhoon and the JSF both single seaters surely that limits future Nav's to Rotary/ Multi's? (Don’t get me wrong in my opinion there’s nothing wrong/worse/better with Rotary or Multi's) Im just interested to hear what others think the future may hold for the fella's at the back.

Thanks

Snoopy

Chris Eva

I've always wanted to join the RAF and recently after much deliberation i've decided upon WSO. I've started the recruitment process but was wondering if anybody out there can tell me what to expect if i am successful. Obviously i've gathered all the relevant intel that i can from the website and have spoken to people at the careers office but i wanted to hear it first hand from anyone that is currently serving/has served as a WSO.

Seldomfitforpurpose

Isn't WSO the new brand name for Nav..........explains quite a bit

Chris Eva

Thats a good one, funny!
Seriously though, what can i expect from the training for WSO/NAV?

bad livin'

Chris Eva -

Filter interviews
OASC
Part 2 Medical
Familiarisation Visit
IOT
Possible Holding
Ground School
Grob Phase at Cranwell
Ground School
Tucano
Ground School
Basic Dominie Module
--STREAMING--
If FJ, then
LLTS on Dominie
Ground School
Hawk at Leeming
--STREAMING FOR F3 OR GR4--
Relevant Advanced Hawk Phase
Ground School
OCU
CONVEX
Front Line!

This was the run of it for Navs from when I joined up in 99, if I'm out of date I'd be pleased to be corrected.

NutLoose

I am asking this on behalf of someone who is looking to join as a pilot, he has searched all the relevent sites but is unable to find the info required...

He is about 5.5 in height but was also wondering about reach requirement both in leg length and arm length........

Medically he is ok regarding ailments, well bar having the odd screw loose
He does hold a CAA Class One medical and is learning to fly at the moment....


Thanks in advance on his behalf for any responses that will help him achieve his goal..

A2QFI

Pilot:
Weight: 56.8 - 94.0 Kg
Functional reach (shoulders to thumb-tip):
740 - 900 mm
Sitting height: 865 - 1010 mm
Buttock knee: 560 - 660 mm
Buttock - heel: 1000 - 1200mm
I appears that height overall doesn't matter, it is just what you can reach with your arms and feet.
A Recruiting Office should have the gen. The above is several years old!
Sorry the reply took all of 8 minutes!

Seldomfitforpurpose

"I appears that height overall doesn't matter, it is just what you can reach with your arms "

It's seldom long enough to reach the bottom of their pockets.........feckin pikeys

maxdrypower

Used to be an F3 gadgie at leeming who was about 5ft4 tall or thereabouts earned him the nickname SPIN (smallest person in nato)

MWarby

Hi all,

First post after following the thread for a while. Im training to pass the OASC (Assuming I get there) in order to become an Administration officer.

I am 32, have 3 good A-Levels but no degree as I left university before the half way point after running out of funds (long story!)

My question is, for non-aircrew, are the tests less demanding than aircrew overall? I assume, for the most part, the cream of the crop are applying to be aircrew which is something my colour blindness and considerable height exempt me from Will not having a degree be a major hinderance aswell? Fitness and knowledge wise, I will be ready but its the other unknown factors I want to find out about.

Many thanks

Mark

Pontius Navigator

MWarby, in a word, No. To qualify that, you are all applying to be officers first. This means you must be physically fit to the same standard as everyone else although there will be age allowances. The only difference will be your medical standard may be lower, you will still be tested, and you will not do the aircrew aptitude battery of tests.

AlexL, you HAVE been talking to professionals all this time. However you seem to be angling for an MSN chat. I don't think we want to do that.

MWarby

Thanks Pontius, thats what I thought would be the case.

Anybody know what to expect from my initial AFCO interview next month? Ive been told its a smaller scale version of what to expect at OASC.

drustsonoferp

The future for Navs (WSOs) has the potential to be good. Should UAVs be fairly well adopted the argument for a WSO rather than a pilot to control them isn't a bad one.

XOA

Hi everybody,

I'm looking to join the RAF as a Fighter Controller, and I wondered whether anyone could give me a breakdown of what initial FC training they undergo at RAF Boulmer. I was due to take a trip up to Boulmer before I went to OASC, however they have brought my date forward and so I now don't have time to go there before I head to Cranwell. Any info will help enormously.

Thanks in advance

Chris

simonpo

I've just returned from OASC and am hoping for FC aswell. This page from the student room does a pretty good job of explaining the training and role of a FC: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...6&postcount=26

snoopy1107

Drustsonoferp, excellent point, here’s hoping.

With the everest of optimism or naivety, does anyone know what the chances of getting a visit at the 1115 Flt at Creech Air Force Base in Nevada to see some of the UAV's or is it all tip top secret at the moment?

Snoopy

lazyrs1

Hi, Guys/girls...first a big thank you to all who have posted on here, although I have been passive (no need to ask questions there was so much good info on this thread) I manged to get accepted for NCA (I am a serving airman). I have heard ITC is a real beasting, I am doing what I can eg. half marathon/going mad in the gym, and I am going on an exped to practise nav - is there anything else I should be doing or tips anyone could pass on?

Cheers in advance!

Wayne