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Anybody watch this last night - Wounded BBC1? Truely humbling.
Both find their way in the end, but the young Para is made of very strong stuff. I hope that the second part of their lives treat them well - viewing like that makes you understand how important the fund-raising work done Help for Heroes is.
BBC iPlayer - Wounded: Part 1
Both find their way in the end, but the young Para is made of very strong stuff. I hope that the second part of their lives treat them well - viewing like that makes you understand how important the fund-raising work done Help for Heroes is.
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I have yet to watch the full programme - too near my bed-time! However, I have to concur that the young para was/is made of the strongest stuff. Truly humbling.
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Was a brilliant program and really brought home the challenges faced by those guys. Not ashamed to admit to having slightly blurry vision and a runny nose during some parts of the documentary!
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But sadly not for the bloody politicians and mandarins who want to take benefits off them - there are so many deserving cases out there who need the money to buy trainers and baseball caps to wear back to front whilst waiting in the queue for their 'wages'. They've not even served a pizza, let alone this bunch of corrupt politicians.
Bit unbalanced isn't it?
If I wore a hat, I'd take it off. I was in Rehabilitation in Chessington in 1971 after a motorbike crash, and saw the same kind of dogged determination in the guys shot up in NI.
Bless you guys, we should be giving them the best, not hassle. Thanks to the hospital staff too - that must take a huge amount of commitment too.
Bit unbalanced isn't it?
If I wore a hat, I'd take it off. I was in Rehabilitation in Chessington in 1971 after a motorbike crash, and saw the same kind of dogged determination in the guys shot up in NI.
Bless you guys, we should be giving them the best, not hassle. Thanks to the hospital staff too - that must take a huge amount of commitment too.
Although it was centred on just two, there were lots of others in the background who looked as if they were just as determined. They all seemed to have good senses of humour too. It must cost a fortune to get them up and running but I'm sure we'll all agree, its worth every penny, especially when you see them back on the job.
After the programme, I hope that more of the public appreciate what risks these troops face in order to do their jobs. Sadly, the facilities are going to be required for some time yet.
After the programme, I hope that more of the public appreciate what risks these troops face in order to do their jobs. Sadly, the facilities are going to be required for some time yet.
I believe the programme is being repeated on Friday 25th September on BBC 3 at 2100. Having watched it, I would suggest that Mr Dyson re-designs his machines as they obviously didn't collect all the dust and grit in 4ma's garden shed. It was an intensely moving and powerful programme and a full box of Kleenex is recommended (for the ladies of course) if you intend to watch it.
Agree with everything above, a truly moving piece of documentary, made all the better by the fact the BBC gave a full 90 minutes to it and didn't fit it into a One Show type 20 minute slot.
The extra time allowed the programme to portray just the sheer physical and emotional turmoil such injuries cause to all concerned with the injured.
One also doesn't realise just how truly horrific some of injuries caused by IEDs can be. As the surgeon treating one of the soldiers commented on IEDs, "a bit of coward's way of waging war".
More than once during the film I found myself asking who would want to do this to another human being, often for a few dollars. At the start of the conflict in Afghanistan I disagreed with it. The more it goes on, however, the more I am wholly behind the moves to get rid of the Taliban once and for all. They truly are barbaric and inhuman, cruel and unforgiving. They've no place in a modern world but sadly I fear there are going to be many more casualties like the two portrayed last night before it ends.
As a footnote, just over three years ago PPrune ran a campaign against objectors who didn't wish a house near Hedley Court to be converted into accommodation for those visiting loved ones in Hedley Court. Would it be too much to hope that those objectors saw last night's programme, and even too much more to hope they felt just a little guilty for their actions at that time.
The extra time allowed the programme to portray just the sheer physical and emotional turmoil such injuries cause to all concerned with the injured.
One also doesn't realise just how truly horrific some of injuries caused by IEDs can be. As the surgeon treating one of the soldiers commented on IEDs, "a bit of coward's way of waging war".
More than once during the film I found myself asking who would want to do this to another human being, often for a few dollars. At the start of the conflict in Afghanistan I disagreed with it. The more it goes on, however, the more I am wholly behind the moves to get rid of the Taliban once and for all. They truly are barbaric and inhuman, cruel and unforgiving. They've no place in a modern world but sadly I fear there are going to be many more casualties like the two portrayed last night before it ends.
As a footnote, just over three years ago PPrune ran a campaign against objectors who didn't wish a house near Hedley Court to be converted into accommodation for those visiting loved ones in Hedley Court. Would it be too much to hope that those objectors saw last night's programme, and even too much more to hope they felt just a little guilty for their actions at that time.
Indeed, it was a deeply moving programme. I really felt for the Belfast lad. I was also very taken by the camaraderie amongst the patients at Hedley Court (even the para and marine had put their differences aside).
Hmm - I'm sure the injuries inflicted by SA80 & 50 cal rounds, WP grenades etc etc are just as bad. As for a coward's way of war, well it is a shame that they're not up for a fair fight, then neither would I be in their position. Don't forget they believe in their cause as much as we do (if not more so - remind me, why are we there again?)
One also doesn't realise just how truly horrific some of injuries caused by IEDs can be. As the surgeon treating one of the soldiers commented on IEDs, "a bit of coward's way of waging war".
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I watched this via BBC I Player.
Compulsive viewing, but also very harrowing. I found the screen very blurry at times, maybe due to my paternal instincts playing up (I raised my children as a single parent), plus the fact that the lads in the programme are the same age as my own two boys.
It was great to see the camaraderie these young lads showed during treatment, and I even found myself clapping when the para took his his unsupported steps on his stubbies
The programme showed IMHO that our young lads and lasses are built of stern stuff, and we should and can be very proud of them in the way the conduct their lives (in conflict and peace), a far cry from the way this group are often portrayed on TV.
Well done to the BBC for this excellent programme (yes I did just actually say that
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Compulsive viewing, but also very harrowing. I found the screen very blurry at times, maybe due to my paternal instincts playing up (I raised my children as a single parent), plus the fact that the lads in the programme are the same age as my own two boys.
It was great to see the camaraderie these young lads showed during treatment, and I even found myself clapping when the para took his his unsupported steps on his stubbies
The programme showed IMHO that our young lads and lasses are built of stern stuff, and we should and can be very proud of them in the way the conduct their lives (in conflict and peace), a far cry from the way this group are often portrayed on TV.
Well done to the BBC for this excellent programme (yes I did just actually say that
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As the surgeon treating one of the soldiers commented on IEDs, "a bit of coward's way of waging war".
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Was an amazing programme and shows just how tough these young people are - not the way certain members of the press would have us believe the youth of today are like. Also very good article in the telegraph yesterday about the quality of military personnel
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IEDs are no more or less cowardly than us dropping smart bombs on them - both weapons strike without warning.
I know that non-combatants have been killed by ISAF weapons, but huge efforts are made by the aircrew and JTACs to ensure no civilians are in the kill-zone of the weapon.
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I thought that even with the problems they we're attempting to overcome, the military style humour was still present ...
or am i the only one who spotted the marine at H-Court with the T-shirt ...
" Mine Awareness .. INSTRUCTOR "
or am i the only one who spotted the marine at H-Court with the T-shirt ...
" Mine Awareness .. INSTRUCTOR "
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No mate you weren't the only one. Thought the t-shirt was brilliant!
An excellent programme, with a (rightly) positive spin for once. Do you think that this programme would put people off joining, or would it encourage people to join up? Difficult to judge from a serving military perspective....
Of interest, did anyone notice that there was no wider context stuff shown and little opinion? Excellent journalism or 'journalists going native'?
No mate you weren't the only one. Thought the t-shirt was brilliant!
An excellent programme, with a (rightly) positive spin for once. Do you think that this programme would put people off joining, or would it encourage people to join up? Difficult to judge from a serving military perspective....
Of interest, did anyone notice that there was no wider context stuff shown and little opinion? Excellent journalism or 'journalists going native'?
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I'm amazed no mention has been made of the wives / mothers / girlfriends. I was truly humbled by the strength shown by the Irish lads Mum and girlfriend.
Incredible people, and the injured lads would not make a recovery at all if it weren't for their family's support.
We all take our family's for granted sometimes, and this program made me realise just what they go through for us whilst we do what we do.
Incredible people, and the injured lads would not make a recovery at all if it weren't for their family's support.
We all take our family's for granted sometimes, and this program made me realise just what they go through for us whilst we do what we do.
Glum,
yes, that was kind of what I what I implied in my second sentence above.
"The extra time allowed the programme to portray just the sheer physical and emotional turmoil such injuries cause to all concerned with the injured."
Sorry if it didn't come through so clear.
As the Surgeon at another point commented, the guys who do better and quicker after such injuries are the ones in steady relationships. It's a well known phenomenon in survival situations that the ones who show a stronger will to survive are those with something to live for (wives, children etc).
That being said, yes, the courage and strength portrayed by the Irish lad's Mother was beyond belief, and I speak as someone who's own Mother had to endure the same with my kid brother (injured through medical mishap).
yes, that was kind of what I what I implied in my second sentence above.
"The extra time allowed the programme to portray just the sheer physical and emotional turmoil such injuries cause to all concerned with the injured."
Sorry if it didn't come through so clear.
As the Surgeon at another point commented, the guys who do better and quicker after such injuries are the ones in steady relationships. It's a well known phenomenon in survival situations that the ones who show a stronger will to survive are those with something to live for (wives, children etc).
That being said, yes, the courage and strength portrayed by the Irish lad's Mother was beyond belief, and I speak as someone who's own Mother had to endure the same with my kid brother (injured through medical mishap).
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I'm another one of the iplayer viewers and I'm glad that I was alone last night as the world doesn't have enough tissues to support the emotion if Mrs JL had been there too.
This was a truely humbling programme which hopefully brought a strong message to the British Public about how "strong" - in so many ways - our boys and men at the front are. I know that the military is getting unparalleled (sp?) public support right now and I hope that this helps to strengthen it; they are doing a fantastic job in demanding conditions and with their fair share of limitations. The guys in theatre will not waiver, I hope the support doesn't either.
Keep it up lads and well done to the BBC.
JL
This was a truely humbling programme which hopefully brought a strong message to the British Public about how "strong" - in so many ways - our boys and men at the front are. I know that the military is getting unparalleled (sp?) public support right now and I hope that this helps to strengthen it; they are doing a fantastic job in demanding conditions and with their fair share of limitations. The guys in theatre will not waiver, I hope the support doesn't either.
Keep it up lads and well done to the BBC.
JL