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Old 25th Sep 2009, 16:50
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No mate you weren't the only one. Thought the t-shirt was brilliant!
.. a sometime comrade-in-arms who had lost a leg under similar circumstances had a t-shirt which said "Help Stamp Out Landmines!" Come to think of it - he was an ex-Para.....

And he was at the evening party of my wedding to Milady Teeters, when one of her mates approached him:

She: Are you dancing?

He: Er... no thanks...

She: Oh come one! What's the matter? Got a wooden leg or something?

He: Er .... yes!!

She:
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Old 25th Sep 2009, 19:46
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Think the BBC got it right for once. Lots of dust flying around the Faithless house when watching this.

As I said to Mrs Faithless " You take our limbs but you'll never take a British soldiers humour!"

I had lots of respect for these guys but its tenfold now.

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Old 25th Sep 2009, 19:57
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Harrowing. Probably a good description.

Seeing the the young guy (?Andy), lying prostate, blinded, sedated, and with a white, remaining, foot, was probably one of the saddest things I've seen for a long while. Even more sadder, was seeing his mum, at his medals parade, confessing that at one time, she'd wished him dead.

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As a footnote, just over three years ago PPRuNe ran a campaign against objectors who didn't wish a house near Hedley Court to be converted into accommodation for those visiting loved ones in Hedley Court.
That makes me ashamed.



Also, interesting to see how much support both men gained from peer support-is this a services thing?
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Old 25th Sep 2009, 20:03
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Absolutely inspiring the guys in that programme! And I can only echo earlier sentiments in that I seriously hope the NIMBY types who objected to the accomodation at HC maybe, just maybe, had a pang of conscience if they watched.

Alas I doubt it.

But there is no doubt in my mind how courageous, determined, inspirational all the guys in the programme are.
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Old 25th Sep 2009, 21:05
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both men gained from peer support-is this a services thing?
Not half - it's the reason people stay in, and it's what makes all three Services what they are. There is no I in team.

I'm certain that while the staff at HC are the tops, it's the mutual support that gets the guys and gals back to their maximum.
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Gingernut

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The bit where one of the blokes rammed the para's wheelchair to make him crash, would only boost his morale and aid his sense of normality.

I can't speak for other services, but soldiers are happiest when moaning, and making fun of each other.

Never having been injured (luckily, and thank goodness) I have no idea what it would be like for anyone in the programme, but I do know that with the support of my (military) mates, I felt I could do anything, and had great self belief, as well as belief in those around me...That kind of kinship is literally priceless.
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Old 25th Sep 2009, 22:07
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I recall from speaking to an Army Major that both John McCain and Obama make visits to Walter Reed - often discreetly and without publicity.

Willy and Harry have visited Headley Court good lads - Do any of our Politicians make morale boosting visits?
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Old 25th Sep 2009, 22:10
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Agree fully - brought tears to my eyes at times. The young Para lad was totally focused and had a mindset that looked was inspirational.

Have to say, felt sorry the RIR lad. Life is going to be hard for him and my upmost respect goes to him (and to Para man of course, but he will do well I'm sure). He - RIR guy - is a prime example of the aftercare that is needed.

Three Cheers for all those guys.
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Old 25th Sep 2009, 22:26
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Do any of our Politicians make morale boosting visits?
God, I hope not flash8, can't think of anything more likely to cause a relapse! No leave that to the Royals, that's their job and is usually done superbly. Just caught the prog on Beeb3. Sad? Angry? No, Proud! Proud of the two guys of course and their fellow patients, proud of the chain of support from front line medics and colleagues all the way through to Selly Oak and Headley Court, and proud of the parents, partners, family and friends who stand by them in such harrowing circumstances. We may have the lowest of the low running (or claiming to) the country, but we have young men and woman with the moral fibre to rise above such debilitating injury and gain a revised version of "normal". As Andy, then blinded as well as having lost both legs, said; "I just want to watch football, so I do". Mercifully his eyesight returned making that simple wish possible. Respect, hoping that doesn't count against me in the new campaign against over sentimentality!
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He - RIR guy - is a prime example of the aftercare that is needed.
Not sure what RIR is, but is aftercare an issue?
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RIR

Royal Irish Regiment. After Care speaks for itself surely.
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RIR-thanks for that tarantonight.

Apologies, of course aftercare is an issue, but is the provision of aftercare an issue?
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Aftercare.......

I think so GN............not referring to initial military / National Health response which is second to non. What happens to RIR lad when he has left army. This government......and those before and in the future fail, and will continue to fail the likes of him.
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Another fantastic piece of reporting. Mrs Gofradump cried her way through the programme. I just hid it.

I am humbled, regardless of my own achievements. I only hope to have the same morale courage, if the same fate befell me.

There is discipline in a soldier
you can see it when he walks,
There is honor in a soldier
you hear it when he talks.
There is courage in a soldier
you can see it in his eyes,
There is loyalty in a soldier
that he will not compromise.
There is something in a soldier
that makes him stand apart,
There is strength in a soldier
that beats from his heart.
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Humbled..........

Anita G.....you must have been there or thereabouts. A big hug. Need I say more.
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I am renowned as a bit of a hard handful up here in Lanky, and totally not put off by the cliffs that life throws at us, having read all of this thread I now have to admit that I watched the full programme through a sort of damp misty atmosphere, with Mrs Vfr who is a nurse in bits, Kimberly Clarke did very well out of our household due to that programme.

Sad thing is its lit a blue touch paper, for our youngest is going out there very shortly, that programme started to give us the ability to grow a stiffer backbone, I'd love any Minister from this currant shower of ****es to go out to the Gan, and WALK with our Soldiers in the same areas where they find their trade!

Well done BBC !!

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Gingernut: "Also, interesting to see how much support both men gained from peer support-is this a services thing?"

It's amazing. I did two stints at Headly for motorcycle injuries, and everyone there is still treated like a 'real' soldier, no matter what their injuries are.

I recall one lad with a huge chunk of head missing, who was very slow at everything and slurred his speech. He was forever having the P taken for not getting a move on - but no-one helped him open a door, he was just chivvied along till he managed it in his own time.

Another guy lost his leg when driven over by a tank. He was on his seventh visit and simply awesome as his attitude helped those who'd freshly suffered amputations. He was in training for the London marathon, and was an inspiration to all.

The PTI's are also incredible people, and know just how much to push those struggling to come to terms with their new bodies. There are small allowances made, but not many, and again, everyone is treated as a complete serviceman.

Long may Headly court help those who need it.
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