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CLEARED!. . . ."In carrying out our terms of reference, we have considered the justification for the Air Marshals' finding of negligence against the pilots of ZD 576 against the applicable standard of proof, which required "absolutely no doubt whatsoever". In the light of all the evidence before us, and having regard to that standard, we unanimously conclude that the reviewing officers were not justified in finding that negligence on the part of the pilots caused the aircraft to crash."
. . <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/scotland/newsid_1800000/1800965.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/scotland/newsid_1800000/1800965.stm</a>
See report:. . <a href="http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/ld200102/ldselect/ldchin/25/2501.htm" target="_blank">http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/ld200102/ldselect/ldchin/25/2501.htm</a>
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See report:. . <a href="http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/ld200102/ldselect/ldchin/25/2501.htm" target="_blank">http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/ld200102/ldselect/ldchin/25/2501.htm</a>
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Havent time to post more than a link, but Bloody marvellous news,many congratulations to all involved.
. .<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/scotland/newsid_1800000/1800965.stm" target="_blank">Good News</a>
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Just heard from Brian Dixon at the House of Lords.
Brilliant news! We have won!
Too much going on but the gist is that:
"Their Lordships (God bless 'em) reached the unanimous conclusion that the Air Marshalls were NOT just justified in reaching a conclusion of gross negilgence"
Watch this space for more.
A drink for the Jon and Rick now, and one for the families too. And one for those who fought so hard on their behalf.
GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!
Brilliant news! We have won!
Too much going on but the gist is that:
"Their Lordships (God bless 'em) reached the unanimous conclusion that the Air Marshalls were NOT just justified in reaching a conclusion of gross negilgence"
Watch this space for more.
A drink for the Jon and Rick now, and one for the families too. And one for those who fought so hard on their behalf.
GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!
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best wishes to both families. mixed emotions at moment; elation for the victory but distinct sadness that it should never have come to this.
brian dixon, john nichol et al your spirit and determination in progressing this has been outstanding, well done.
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brian dixon, john nichol et al your spirit and determination in progressing this has been outstanding, well done.
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Well done to all those who have fought and argued tirelessly for justice.
But the battle is not over yet.
TL Thou will be hoping that MoD will have the sense to respond positively to their Lordships' findings.
But the battle is not over yet.
TL Thou will be hoping that MoD will have the sense to respond positively to their Lordships' findings.
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Sincere congratulations to all those who never gave up on Jon Tapper and Richard Cook. This accident has always left a bad taste in the mouth. The way the findings of the board of enquiry were countermanded by that person whom we all know was wrong and is now finally rebutted. That person should be ashamed of himself, and I would hope to see a public apology.
A victory for the values and dignity of the RAF.
A victory for the values and dignity of the RAF.
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... and my congratulations too with great respect for those who fought the fight so tirelessly. Well Done!
And just what will MoD do now? So much harm has been done to some who are still serving. And who will be CAS? So many questions...
And just what will MoD do now? So much harm has been done to some who are still serving. And who will be CAS? So many questions...
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At last! The result we all hoped for. Fantastic news.
A thousand thanks to everyone who supported the petition, rest assured that your support was much appreciated and made a difference.
A thousand thanks to everyone who supported the petition, rest assured that your support was much appreciated and made a difference.
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Whoohoo!!!
Absolutely fantastic. A massive pat on the back to EVERYONE who has fought so hard.
It's a pity that anyone had to be put through this in the first place.
My thoughts are with the families. I hope there will be champagne corks popping in abundance.
Absolutely fantastic. A massive pat on the back to EVERYONE who has fought so hard.
It's a pity that anyone had to be put through this in the first place.
My thoughts are with the families. I hope there will be champagne corks popping in abundance.
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Excellent news - how long will the MoD be allowed to supress evidence and order people not to become involved. It is another matter to see just how much good grace and humility is shown by the MoD in their reply. I just hope that it is not the usual 'don't care, we were still right even though it is patently obvious that we weren't' effort to protect what is left of the reputations of those at the top.
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Congratulations to Brian - all your hard work has paid off. At last it is officially acknowledged what so many of us unswervingly believed - negligence could not be proved.
I know CAS - I believe him to be an honourable man. He will now re-open the Board and quash the findings.
Let those who died now rest in peace with honour.
FJJP
I know CAS - I believe him to be an honourable man. He will now re-open the Board and quash the findings.
Let those who died now rest in peace with honour.
FJJP
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Still battles to be fought, ananova reports Bliar reckons nothing has changed.
<a href="http://www.ananova.com/yournews/story/sm_513438.html" target="_blank">Ananova</a>
<a href="http://www.ananova.com/yournews/story/sm_513438.html" target="_blank">Ananova</a>
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Very pleased to Hear the Magnificent news. <img src="cool.gif" border="0">
Wouldn't be suprised to see the MOD 'brass it out' <img src="mad.gif" border="0"> but IMHO they are cleared morally <img src="cool.gif" border="0">
Well done to Mr John Nichol, Mr Brian Dixon and everyone else!!!!!
Wouldn't be suprised to see the MOD 'brass it out' <img src="mad.gif" border="0"> but IMHO they are cleared morally <img src="cool.gif" border="0">
Well done to Mr John Nichol, Mr Brian Dixon and everyone else!!!!!
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adam ingram on sky news:
"its easy for the layman and politicians to exonerate them. the air marshalls were experts who carried out a thorough investigation which examined things (only they could understand). the HofL enquiry raises no new evidence."
intransigence leading to unaccountability. do you want to work for an organisation that doesnt have to explain anything to anybody?
...easy to dismiss considering the HofL select committee was only made up of the most prominent legal minds in the country. i'd much rather rely on 2 AM's with a vested interest in the outcome who mistook their opinion for fact:
"148. We consider that Sir John's conclusions on this matter must be weakened by his reliance on matters which he treated as facts but which have been demonstrated to our satisfaction to be not facts but merely hypotheses or assumptions."
taxi!!
"its easy for the layman and politicians to exonerate them. the air marshalls were experts who carried out a thorough investigation which examined things (only they could understand). the HofL enquiry raises no new evidence."
intransigence leading to unaccountability. do you want to work for an organisation that doesnt have to explain anything to anybody?
...easy to dismiss considering the HofL select committee was only made up of the most prominent legal minds in the country. i'd much rather rely on 2 AM's with a vested interest in the outcome who mistook their opinion for fact:
"148. We consider that Sir John's conclusions on this matter must be weakened by his reliance on matters which he treated as facts but which have been demonstrated to our satisfaction to be not facts but merely hypotheses or assumptions."
taxi!!