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Old 14th Aug 2009, 20:06
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If the answer is zero, then please go away!
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Old 14th Aug 2009, 20:10
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Lightning Mate - 2 can play at that game!

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B Word.

Why is only one of them on fire?
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Old 14th Aug 2009, 20:40
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'Cos the dope in the left one loosed off all his missiles at him!
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Old 14th Aug 2009, 22:52
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Interesting that the exam question is; "Vote for the Greatest RAF fighter Jet". Totally disqualifies the Vulcan and Buckbox (and, OK, Canberra).

Observation: the Tornado 3 is streets ahead. In its day, the hunter was tops (no 111 pun intended). If only the Sea Vixen had been chosen and not the Javelin.
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Old 15th Aug 2009, 12:01
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B Word,

That has to be one of the greatest photos of all time.
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Harrier would have to have the most kills, surely?
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Old 15th Aug 2009, 12:06
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The wording of the question makes it impossible to vote objectively. Having flown Hunter, Lightning, F4, F15 and F3 (F15 is unfortunately disqualified), I can only say that all had their virtues in different decades. If the question was what was the most enjoyable to fly, then for me, the Lightning just outshades the Hunter.
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Old 15th Aug 2009, 12:16
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Which one was used effectively in active service? I saw plenty of Hunters in Aden but not a single Lightning. Did the Lightning have a ground attack capability? The Javelin did sterling service in the far east, did the Lightnings at Tengha see active service? My vote goes to the Hunter.
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Has that photo of the F3 been Photoshopped?

My suspicions are raised on three counts:

1, there are two airframes in the air at any one time
2, they are far too clean to be real F3's
3, that shot implies performance - F3's don't do performance. Noise yes, but not performance.

It would still get my vote - but only as I'm too much of a smally to have worked on 'tooms or frightening and one must be loyal to ones chariot. besides, the wife still looks mighty fine in bed wearing my sqn rugby top
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Old 15th Aug 2009, 15:48
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that shot implies performance - F3's don't do performance. Noise yes, but not performance.
My personal best in F3 was M2.15 and 830kts at low level - if that's not performance then I don't know what is!!!

Granted, the Lightning would outstrip F3 at medium and high-level but for weapon system / numbers / capability, loiter, low level enduring dash (don't forget that F3 was designed to counter Blackjack, Fencer and Backfire) and versatility, the F3 wins hands down.

No, it isn't photoshopped.

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Old 15th Aug 2009, 17:17
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But it is tilted to give the impression of being vertical
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Old 15th Aug 2009, 22:17
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But it is tilted to give the impression of being vertical
Just the entry into a "Stall Turn"
ps, I prefer the "Blue Circle Airways" version....Aesthetically speaking, of course
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Old 16th Aug 2009, 11:11
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Great photo B Word (any relation the THE B Word?) And with a war load the Lightning could never have dreamed of. I'm torn between the F4 and the F3 for my vote. Who am I kidding - the F4 gets it.
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Old 16th Aug 2009, 11:16
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F3 Surely not....

Limited to night time CAP in GW1

BVR good, Radar good, Speed good, daylight up close... BAD. At least this was the gist from an in theatre brief.
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Old 16th Aug 2009, 11:26
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B Word,

"My personal best in F3 was M2.15 and 830kts at low level"

Am I reading the word and incorrectly? WTFO?

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Old 16th Aug 2009, 11:26
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Hunter FGA9 for me...I notice that the Hunter has moved into the lead now

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Old 16th Aug 2009, 12:54
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Aaaaah - the steed of my next door neighbour here. 208 Sqn in Bahrein methinks.
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"Aaaaah - the steed of my next door neighbour here. 208 Sqn in Bahrein methinks."

Well yes, often there or Aden or Kuwait but that pic was taken at Nairobi, Embakazi Airport where we were based (Eastleigh was too short for Hunters) in 1960
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Old 16th Aug 2009, 18:09
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Lightning Mate...of course you know me



In answer to your Q

"My personal best in F3 was M2.15 and 830kts at low level"

Am I reading the word and incorrectly? WTFO?
M2.15 was at mid block 4 - doing the "rollercoaster ride" - 830 was down South at 250ft with the old skyslugs hanging underneath and Limas on the wings (there was a guy in a clean jet chasing me down as well ).

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