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I know the facts, I've quoted a valid source and I've suggested where an even better substantiation can be found (1997 DWP to be precise).
Can't really see your point old chum.
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I know the facts, I've quoted a valid source and I've suggested where an even better substantiation can be found (1997 DWP to be precise).
Can't really see your point old chum.
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According to
BBC News - New Nimrod to appear in Guernsey air display
is appearing tomorrow at air show.
Alan
BBC News - New Nimrod to appear in Guernsey air display
is appearing tomorrow at air show.
Alan
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...and Jersey too!
Jersey International Air Display - Display Timetable
But Jerseymen don't need warning airshows are noisy, unlike the Guernsey lot...
BBC News - Warning of increased aircraft activity over Guernsey
You would think they would remember the racket from every year previous.
CS (from Jersey bien sur)
But Jerseymen don't need warning airshows are noisy, unlike the Guernsey lot...
BBC News - Warning of increased aircraft activity over Guernsey
You would think they would remember the racket from every year previous.
CS (from Jersey bien sur)
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It is probably; 201 Squadron Museum
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Looks like they got the wrong 201 Museum as Alpha made 2 approaches at Kinloss this afternoon
Good news that the 'bird's' flying. Fingers crossed for the SDR!
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Fincastle84, 42 (TB) Sqn (the original one) were good at guest houses, surfing and socialising, but not ASW particularly - they were too busy killing braincells in the Ringers and Two Clomes. Not for nothing were you known as "Third-Division South"
Sargs (of 201 Sqn when it was still hetero)
Sargs (of 201 Sqn when it was still hetero)
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(TB) Sqn (the original one) were good at guest houses, surfing and socialising,
We were GREAT at guest houses, surfing and sh**ging. And WTF is ASW??
PS
F84, Remind me, how many MR2 Kinloss Squadrons did you beat in the Aird Whyte with a MR1?
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Excuse me, but which was the first Sqn operating the Mk2 to win the Fincastle trophy, after a SEVEN year wait for an RAF winner !!!
This followed on from winning the Aird Whyte in '83 operating a Mk1 against 120, 210 & the OCU operating the Mk2!!!
Your move!
(The answer = the result of 2 x 21 !)
This followed on from winning the Aird Whyte in '83 operating a Mk1 against 120, 210 & the OCU operating the Mk2!!!
Your move!
(The answer = the result of 2 x 21 !)
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So Sarg,
To sum up, we stuffed you at surfing, sh**ging, guest houses, Aird Whyte, Fincastle, Bridge, Kirkie, Football and Uckers.
We will concede Rugby and Haggis boffing.
Goodnight.
To sum up, we stuffed you at surfing, sh**ging, guest houses, Aird Whyte, Fincastle, Bridge, Kirkie, Football and Uckers.
We will concede Rugby and Haggis boffing.
Goodnight.
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TOFO:
Yes, but APART from all that what were you good at?
We would still have stuffed you at Uckers, particularly Small Ships rules, because we had the Uckers God Martin Cr***h.
At the end of the day though, you had Newquay Steam and we had McKewans Export, so neither of us were winners.
PS - I know you're old, Fin84, but did you really beat 210 Sqn in '83? They had Mk2s (Shacks though!) and disbanded in '71!
Sargs
To sum up, we stuffed you at surfing, sh**ging, guest houses, Aird Whyte, Fincastle, Bridge, Kirkie, Football and Uckers.
We would still have stuffed you at Uckers, particularly Small Ships rules, because we had the Uckers God Martin Cr***h.
At the end of the day though, you had Newquay Steam and we had McKewans Export, so neither of us were winners.
PS - I know you're old, Fin84, but did you really beat 210 Sqn in '83? They had Mk2s (Shacks though!) and disbanded in '71!
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......because we had the Uckers God Martin Cr***h.
Who may be able to teach a whole new generation at ISK if the plan for him to do a bit of 'helping out' up North comes to fruition.
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When it comes to any aeroplane, aesthetics tends to be a good factor in the "gut feeling" of how it was designed...is anyone really convinced with the "stabilisers" on the tailplane?...bit like the MR2 "add-ons" after the (hash) probe fitting. To me the whole thing (from the exterior) looks a bit Heath Robinson.
I liked the MR1 a lot...the MR2 put a hell of a lot more sophisticated sensors into it and was just about the max you could do with the airframe IMO. The nacelle engines may have an advantage in asymmetric engine failure...but the better wing loading of pylon engines has been a proven fact for many years. You could see the floor "buckle" in flight on the MR1 & MR2...so what happens with bigger wings and more lift? Or does the new engine fit cater or this?
Like Gorilla, I have never been convinced about the way the aircraft has been put together and even if it does enter service, I am not convinced it will be will be a "stayer".
Personally, I do not see the reason why the MOD forces the requirement of a 4-engined maritime aircraft...I thought loitering on two engines was banned anyway after incidents in the 80's and the reliability of 2 engined aircraft is well proven The ETOPS safety requirements are not an issue with military aircraft (or are they?). I am sure the crews would much prefer a wide body...and the equipment sure as hell would!
I liked the MR1 a lot...the MR2 put a hell of a lot more sophisticated sensors into it and was just about the max you could do with the airframe IMO. The nacelle engines may have an advantage in asymmetric engine failure...but the better wing loading of pylon engines has been a proven fact for many years. You could see the floor "buckle" in flight on the MR1 & MR2...so what happens with bigger wings and more lift? Or does the new engine fit cater or this?
Like Gorilla, I have never been convinced about the way the aircraft has been put together and even if it does enter service, I am not convinced it will be will be a "stayer".
Personally, I do not see the reason why the MOD forces the requirement of a 4-engined maritime aircraft...I thought loitering on two engines was banned anyway after incidents in the 80's and the reliability of 2 engined aircraft is well proven The ETOPS safety requirements are not an issue with military aircraft (or are they?). I am sure the crews would much prefer a wide body...and the equipment sure as hell would!
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Eh? Are you sure?
No argument there......
You could see the floor "buckle" in flight on the MR1 & MR2
I am sure the crews would much prefer a wide body...and the equipment sure as hell would!