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Old 9th Jun 2009, 18:00
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CS: Roland I'm sure you are well aware that 1 Sqn RNAS (201 Sqn) Predates any RFC/RAF unit by a few years.
News to me - do you have any proof to back this up?

[II (AC) Sqn formed in May 1912 with real aircraft; although a lesser numbered unit did start a little earlier with some balloons in around 1878...]
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I'm wrong

The Naval Flying School was set up in 1911 but did not have a Sqn Number.

201 is a lot older than 120 though.

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Old 9th Jun 2009, 18:28
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CS & JTO

From the RAF website:

No 1(Fighter) Squadron, Royal Air Force Cottesmore, can trace its history back to 1878 when it was formed at Woolwich as No 1 Balloon Company of the Royal Engineers. It became No 1 Squadron of the Royal Flying Corps on 13 May 1912, still with balloons, but re-equipped with aircraft 2 years later.
Formed at Farnborough on 13 May 1912 as one of the original Squadrons of the RFC, the Squadron quickly gained fame for a number of long distance flights around the UK. At the outbreak of WWI, No 2 Sqn became the first RFC Squadron to cross the Channel, and concentrated on reconnaissance duties. On 26 Apr 1915, 2nd Lt Rhodes-Moorhouse was awarded the first air VC during a raid on Courtrai.
Number 201 Squadron can claim to be one of the oldest British military flying units as it can trace its origins back to the formation of No 1 Squadron, RNAS at Fort Grange on 16 October 1914.
Sorry a bit off topic. we now return our viewers to the usual programme.....
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Grrr

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I bet Soggy still hasn't washed his specs!
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Originally Posted by davejb
Mogg,
no chance - it's a well known fact that should anyone on Pprune be proved wrong, and admit it, that the Universe will disappear so quickly that the Large Hadron Collider will look like a 1950 Sturmey Archer borne dynamo.
Found him!

"The Gorilla". Here are a few of his top predictions:

Originally Posted by The Gorilla
“….and I predict will NEVER fly, the same prediction I made a year ago.” (15th October 2002)
Originally Posted by The Gorilla
“I have been saying for the past 2 years on this forum and I repeat.. It HASN'T flown
and It will NEVER fly!! “ (20th February 2003)
Originally Posted by The Gorilla
“I said it would never fly and I stand by that prediction!!” (14th December 2003)
Originally Posted by The Gorilla
“I still say and have said many times on this forum, the MRA4 will never fly” (2nd February 2004)
Mystic Meg, you have competition!
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Mystic Meg, you have competition!
Sorry, you've lost me there - competition for what, exactly moggiee?
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There is no alternative to the Dark Arts.
It is just many nerd herd, antisocial dry filth dont understand!
Yuppie was dry too
"Best sex ........ Casex"

At least MRA4 is a capability step forward unlike the P8 one forward in airframe at least two back in gear. Now before you knock your cup of tea off your armchair I am not just talking about ASW but all mission profiles. At least it is on time and ahead of schedule .... hang on
ahh Samantha wonder if she is still on the circuit
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Charlie,

At least MRA4 is a capability step forward
Is the sun getting to you out there? Must be nearly time for you to come home if you are coming out with quotes like that.

Best sex ........ Casex
Had a good laugh at that one too.

Fly safe and see you soon

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I wondered how long it would be before I was tracked down and outed!!

I have checked in every day to see who would do the search and use my own words against me.

Yes I guess I should have said never enter service - still be on with that one eh?

Well done moggy - I also said there was as much chance of the MRA4 flying as my beloved Newcastle United winning the FA cup, well that turned out a joy also didn't it!

Any one want two years of a three year season ticket for the Toon? No?

What about some lottery numbers? Oh please yourselves!!

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And yessssss I was wrong!!

Now where's that Hadron Collider..........

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Lovely Sam...

You realise of course, guys, that Samantha will be drawing her old age pension by now!!
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And for that thought Rossian, thank you!

She (IMHO) was directly responsible for my getting recoursed on the MR1 OCU due to my youthful curiosity for the female form, snakes, and exquisite high heels. Oh, and big thick Nick. Hope you're well pal.

As for the MRA4, well, you lost the flying bet Gorilla, but I reckon you could still get decent odds on the ISD!

Anyway, mate. welcome to the Championship, looking forward to seeing you at No Pride Park after Wimbledon.

Ciao

PS Charlie - I know where you live.
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Query For The 'smiter'

Who is big, thick Nick? I'm not sure you have the correct person. What is the initial of my surname?
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Check PMs

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Samantha may be a bit 'over the hill' on the snake juggling circuit, but I bet I could still book Jezebel for another evening's entertainment!
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Update

The fourth MRA.4 is presently at Norwich being painted. First flight took place on Thu. 10 September 09.
Photos can be found using same link in message #1 at the start of this thread.
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At least MRA4 is a capability step forward


Now then, who has been filling your head with those thoughts?
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The MRA4 isn't a capability, it is a platform.
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Twas just was wondering what SAR cab is to be based there, as at the moment 202 Sqn are at Lossie with no plan to move????
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Old 12th Sep 2009, 13:18
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Charlie Luncher,

"At least MRA4 is a capability step forward unlike the P8 - one forward in airframe at least two back in gear."
Care to elaborate?

The conventional wisdom has always been that 'buying American' is best, and the "scrap MRA4, buy P-8 instead" argument has been trotted out ad nauseam, and seems to be widely (if uncritically) accepted.

Don't the two jets use a VERY similar mission system? Wouldn't that support that conventional wisdom?

Or is it the case that weight/CG considerations mean that the P-8 has had too much useful gear omitted/removed, and that it can't carry anything like the same load of weapons and buoys?

And is the airframe really a step forward? Is it suitable for the kind of low level prosecution of ASW that the Nimrod and P-3 can do? Or is that no longer relevant?

What awkward questions should one be asking of P-8?
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