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Old 22nd Jul 2010, 15:37
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Yes, but it had a large chin radome.
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Old 22nd Jul 2010, 16:14
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MR4 replaced by C47

So the new sqn motto could be

............................................................ ......................wait for it.......................................................... ..................................

2 screws are better than 4 blow jobs!



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Old 22nd Jul 2010, 17:07
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MR4 replaced by C47

I think he means this one

http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/airshow...que/thales.jpg
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Old 22nd Jul 2010, 17:51
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Wowzer...

That one looks like a bullfrog!
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Old 22nd Jul 2010, 19:18
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Nah, not that one. Look at the engines. Just a little upset that no one reacted to my first suggestion about the 737.
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Old 22nd Jul 2010, 19:29
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I wonder how many Nimrod 1 drivers could have kept current on a BEA/Dan Air Comet 4 (or Air Force Comet 2)?
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Old 22nd Jul 2010, 20:24
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Nah, not that one.
Er yeah would have been that very one with old radial engines.... I flew some (god it was Nimrod 2000 in those days!) development sorties in G-ANAF with Searchwater. Great aircraft never missed a beat. It carried on doing development long after I moved on.
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Old 22nd Jul 2010, 20:48
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GBZ,

Not sure they could have, there was some major system and airframe differences between the MR1 and the Comet 4.
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Old 22nd Jul 2010, 22:31
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The one I'm talking about was borrowed from South Africa, not Coventry. Funnily enough it flew over my house after I got home after the exercise, it had turboprops and as I said before had a "chin radar" not a throat one.

As to licences. Well I know the P8 is a bit of a hybrid, 800 fuselage and 900 wings. Well I've got both of those on my licence. should not be too much of a problem. Should It?
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Old 23rd Jul 2010, 05:01
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Surely with this type of role the major skillsets will be the ones down the back end, loss of which makes the flightdeck crew unnecessary?
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Old 23rd Jul 2010, 10:59
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doubledolphins

Just a little upset that no one reacted to my first suggestion about the 737.
The P8 might not be so great to start with, but I would suggest that there is a good chance that at inception, the airframe at least, will be far more servicable than the MRA4.

Apologies for the verbose-ness of the reply, but if I just claimed that the P8 would be better than MRA4 I would have everyone on my back
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Old 23rd Jul 2010, 11:46
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DD,

Speculation only, but presumably most 737 drivers from civvie air land don't routinely practice turning hard over the sea at 200' in rain at night? I can see that the circuit bashing element of P-8 / 737 civ-air could be quite similar, but operational flying?

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Old 23rd Jul 2010, 12:47
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Squirrel 41. The point I was trying to lead to, albeit rather clumsily.
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Old 24th Jul 2010, 01:36
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With MRA4 paid for bar support, would it not be a terrible waste of money to buy the PA8. The SDR is supposed to be about the countries requirement. PA8 have had large problems with the engine pod vibration , it too is having its fair share of issues , in all fairness it has a bigger budget behind it though.

To me would seem silly to scrap a world beating platform that can fullfill mulitroles in the future for an aircraft that has not been tried and trusted yet,Nimrod shape works, Airliner shape I beg to differ in engineering terms.
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Old 24th Jul 2010, 21:32
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Oh dear S41 and GBZ. I had not thought of that. I forgot , Airline Pilots are not real pilots. How silly of me to think otherwise. Of course we don't do that sort of thing day in day out. I just meant current on type, not operationally. It would still be quite a saving.
Funny old thing but some times in the past I have had reason to go on Nimrod sorties to witness what was going on down the back. On each time, when the crew found out what I did for the day job I was invited to have a go. I was assured that regs allowed me to fly the aircraft down to 1000' so I flew search patterns at that altitude. On more than one occaison I was left alone at the front with only the eng for company. I rather think that 200' might just be some thing I could be trained for with out too much bother if it was a type I have more than 7000 hours on.

PS. Regulars in all arms of the Services traditionally regard reservists as unable to do their jobs. History usually proves them wrong.

(But that's another thread entirely.)
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Old 24th Jul 2010, 21:41
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DD I very much doubt what you have just commented on. Yes you may have had a go at flying the Nimrod from one of the seats but to say on a public forum that you were left on your own at the controls with only the Eng for company is the biggest load of claptrap I have heard on PPRuNE for many a year. Go play with your submarines and leave the profesional flying to those that can. In one sentance you have slighted proffesional aviators. All the people I have served on in all my military career would not allow what you have just said and they are just that profesionals. As an Eng I would not have allowed it but the opportunity for me to have to say that would not have occured.
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Old 25th Jul 2010, 08:54
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Fergi. Spot on. Someone did let a nav land one once though didn't they?
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Old 25th Jul 2010, 13:51
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Fergi,

Nice one..saved me typing it.

Do you get as frustated as I do by the endless tosh that gets posted on here re the mighty hunter & maritime ops in general by posters who seemed to have become LRMP experts on one (in)complete reading of a Tom Clancy novel?
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Old 25th Jul 2010, 16:05
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The one thing that may add to a MRA4 crew:

A 'Tac Eng'

A year in the air on the MR2 and an Eng has saved my neck on many occations... Some of them on the aircraft
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Old 25th Jul 2010, 18:29
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Sorry chaps but it is true. Deal with it.
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