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hi all,
just a quick question for those who have been to oasc,
what is the pass percentage like for oasc, i mean from the number who started the oasc course to the number who proceeded to iot?
cheers guys
just a quick question for those who have been to oasc,
what is the pass percentage like for oasc, i mean from the number who started the oasc course to the number who proceeded to iot?
cheers guys
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WSOp passrates
I believe that 75 - 80% of those invited to OASC as prospective WSOps are not selected, so 20 - 25% pass.
Of those that are selected about 50 - 66% pass A Sqn at OACTU and start WSOp Flying training.
So of the total asked to attend OASC somewhere between 10 - 17% get as far as Acting Sergeant Trainee Aircrew...
And then me and my mates chop 'em
Seriously we do our best for the guys at this stage but one or two a year don't make the grade...so the total number of OASC attendees who get a Flying Brevet is probably around 12-15% on average.
Of those that are selected about 50 - 66% pass A Sqn at OACTU and start WSOp Flying training.
So of the total asked to attend OASC somewhere between 10 - 17% get as far as Acting Sergeant Trainee Aircrew...
And then me and my mates chop 'em
Seriously we do our best for the guys at this stage but one or two a year don't make the grade...so the total number of OASC attendees who get a Flying Brevet is probably around 12-15% on average.
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Also remember that just like the financial year there is a recruiting year, and if you attend OASC at he beginning of that year then there will be a whole lot more vacancies to fill than at the end of the year.
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thanks,
another q...
so if you pass oasc and fail the further stages, will you just have to do the course (IOT) again until you pass? Or if you fail IOT will you be sent home?
another q...
so if you pass oasc and fail the further stages, will you just have to do the course (IOT) again until you pass? Or if you fail IOT will you be sent home?
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You appear to be a little disjointed in your thinking here.
Step 1 - Interview at recruting office. Pass you go to OASC. Fail and you go home.
Step 2 - 1-3 days selection tests and interviews. Pass and you go to IOT. Fail and you go home.
Step 3 - Pass IOT. Pass and you go to professional training. Fail and you go back a course and try again or you go home.
Step 4 - Pass Professional training and you become productive, Fail and you can either retake the training course or retrain with another branch. Or go home.
Time scale from step 1 to 4 from 1yr to 4yrs+
Hope this helps
Step 1 - Interview at recruting office. Pass you go to OASC. Fail and you go home.
Step 2 - 1-3 days selection tests and interviews. Pass and you go to IOT. Fail and you go home.
Step 3 - Pass IOT. Pass and you go to professional training. Fail and you go back a course and try again or you go home.
Step 4 - Pass Professional training and you become productive, Fail and you can either retake the training course or retrain with another branch. Or go home.
Time scale from step 1 to 4 from 1yr to 4yrs+
Hope this helps
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Was often told that of the numbers who apply 10% are selected.
Of the 10% selected, 10% pass.
Probably bull****, but on my OASC intake, only 2 faces turned up at IOT and I was 1 of them.
Of the 10% selected, 10% pass.
Probably bull****, but on my OASC intake, only 2 faces turned up at IOT and I was 1 of them.
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IF you are attending OASC in the near future, focussing on your own performance, rather than the likelihood of you passing (including increasing the odds by trying to attend at certain times of the year ), will do you more good. Although there is an eventual 'rank order' of those who have been successful at OASC, you are initially proving that you meet a required standard that the majority can not.
Otherwise, I'm sure a formal approach to the RAF/OASC will give you the answer you seek!
Otherwise, I'm sure a formal approach to the RAF/OASC will give you the answer you seek!
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I would have to agree with Anita, surely just attend the OASC and put in 110 percent effort.
I have done it before, and if you fill your head with statistics and figures, you're likely to be sat there working out how many people are on your course, and how many will get through rather than focussing on the task in hand.
Does anyone know how often the 3 day OASC runs? I have a holiday booked for July and September and would be disapointed if they only run twice a year (say February and July) or something, where I would miss out.
Thanks,
I have done it before, and if you fill your head with statistics and figures, you're likely to be sat there working out how many people are on your course, and how many will get through rather than focussing on the task in hand.
Does anyone know how often the 3 day OASC runs? I have a holiday booked for July and September and would be disapointed if they only run twice a year (say February and July) or something, where I would miss out.
Thanks,
Out of about 40, there were about 15 left after the first morning and few of those actually passed the second stage.
Be aware, most left early on the strength of the interview. Know your current affairs, RAF and equipment, roles and Sqn's, and most importantly know the job your applying for. Sounds simple but a great deal of people struggle with that.
Most of all, know every detail you put on the application form, you will be asked questions on it.
Be aware, most left early on the strength of the interview. Know your current affairs, RAF and equipment, roles and Sqn's, and most importantly know the job your applying for. Sounds simple but a great deal of people struggle with that.
Most of all, know every detail you put on the application form, you will be asked questions on it.
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FWIW, on my NCA board in 1986, 45 hopefuls started OASC at Biggin Hill, 27 finished it and 6 made the grade for selection.
Of the 6, one binned it during AEOp training (smart bloke) and the others got through - eventually.
Of the 5, I think only 2 are now left in and another one was Kev Hardie of the Mull crew ( RIP mate, never forgotten).
As said before, FWIW. If you are good enough you will make it. If not, McDonalds are always recruiting .
Good luck and work hard.
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Of the 6, one binned it during AEOp training (smart bloke) and the others got through - eventually.
Of the 5, I think only 2 are now left in and another one was Kev Hardie of the Mull crew ( RIP mate, never forgotten).
As said before, FWIW. If you are good enough you will make it. If not, McDonalds are always recruiting .
Good luck and work hard.
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One thing to bear in mind is that no matter how well or badly you think you did at OASC you will have no clue what it is they are looking for.
I attended Biggin Hill for selection and was grouped with a man who proceeded to alienate many around him. At the end of selection it turned out that he would be driving right past my camp on his way home and he gave me a lift. After two hours of "quality" time with him I was convinced that if the RAF wanted him they wouldn't want me.
I turned up at Finningley for AAITC and he was there... He proceeded to scrape through every subsequent course and became combat ready on Pumas. It was more than a year later that he finally blew it and was sent to the C-130 OCU. I know not what happened to him after that.
So, statistics and gut feelings will not help you at all. If you're any good you know it already. Go for selection and show them how good you are. Don't waste time fretting about how many will pass through on your selection or whether others are better/better suited than you - because you'll be wrong.
I attended Biggin Hill for selection and was grouped with a man who proceeded to alienate many around him. At the end of selection it turned out that he would be driving right past my camp on his way home and he gave me a lift. After two hours of "quality" time with him I was convinced that if the RAF wanted him they wouldn't want me.
I turned up at Finningley for AAITC and he was there... He proceeded to scrape through every subsequent course and became combat ready on Pumas. It was more than a year later that he finally blew it and was sent to the C-130 OCU. I know not what happened to him after that.
So, statistics and gut feelings will not help you at all. If you're any good you know it already. Go for selection and show them how good you are. Don't waste time fretting about how many will pass through on your selection or whether others are better/better suited than you - because you'll be wrong.
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Eeerrrr, give us a name - it could be me
Not that I have ever been a tw@t and as I only lived 20mins away from Biggin (what a place !) I drove home alone - but you never know.
Not that I have ever been a tw@t and as I only lived 20mins away from Biggin (what a place !) I drove home alone - but you never know.
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Not that I have ever been a tw@t
I'll narrow it down but it wouldn't be fair to name him publicly...
He drove me from Biggin to Hullavington in 1982 but probably 1983, (I don't recall which year but my AAITC was in 1983). He lived further west... He was a Techie of some flavour or other and I was a Rock. He was so deathly afraid of bees that he did an emergency stop and ejected on the M4 at 70mph until I had "shushed" the offending creature from the car... I always wondered what he'd do flying LL, doors open at 145kts if one got swept into the cabin???
Does anyone know how often the 3 day OASC runs? I have a holiday booked for July and September and would be disapointed if they only run twice a year (say February and July) or something, where I would miss out.
Just in case you didn't [or have got wires crossed]: OASC opens twice a week. One board is welcomed on the Sunday night for starting bright and early on Monday morning. The next board arrives Tuesday for starting Weds.
If your holiday clashes with IOT - you don't go on holiday [some allowances may be made...].
Without wanting to sound rude, if you don't know the difference between OASC and IOT, don't go. I am by no means an elitist or a snob [with my background I can ill afford to be!] but I was quite surprised when I turned up to OASC and met people who didn't know more than five bases, or five a/c, or various stages of training. All of which is available through a simple use of Google for 10 minutes.
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Liam - the pass percentage really does not matter - you either have it, and work hard to prove it to your examiners/instructors, or you don't have it at all, or you have most of it, but you don't work anything like hard enough to get over your weaknesses.
I was one of 1,200 to apply for a military "role". 270 started the selection process. Nine of us passed. The percentage of passes to applicants was less than 1%, by a margin, but I didn't know that or even care. All I knew was that I wanted it more than pretty much anything else I'd ever thought about. And I made sure I gave myself the best possible chance at every opportunity.
I was one of 1,200 to apply for a military "role". 270 started the selection process. Nine of us passed. The percentage of passes to applicants was less than 1%, by a margin, but I didn't know that or even care. All I knew was that I wanted it more than pretty much anything else I'd ever thought about. And I made sure I gave myself the best possible chance at every opportunity.
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Expression of Interest to Spat out on OFT
Speaking from the 100 year old FAA perspective we need about 450 guys & gals to express an interest per year (this includes those who watch Top Gun on Film 4 on a Saturday night and then pop down to the AFCO on Monday morning).
(RT, Med, ALCO Sifts & eligibility counts for a good 50% of that reduction.) Aptitudes cover 50% of Failures... sorry we aren't allowed to call them that... unsatisfactory candidates... AIB has about a 50% pass rate (quite high really compared to OASC if viewed as a whole).
The thing to remember is you will do the FATS (Aptitudes) about a month prior to AIB so you should have a good idea and chance to 'reappraise' career options at this point.
After that point though the 'whittling' of the 70ish that enter Dartmouth, EFT, BFT are whittled down to about 55 prior to being spat onto the Front Line Sqn's.
As we say in the RN we can 'veer and haul' the figure as required!
IT
(RT, Med, ALCO Sifts & eligibility counts for a good 50% of that reduction.) Aptitudes cover 50% of Failures... sorry we aren't allowed to call them that... unsatisfactory candidates... AIB has about a 50% pass rate (quite high really compared to OASC if viewed as a whole).
The thing to remember is you will do the FATS (Aptitudes) about a month prior to AIB so you should have a good idea and chance to 'reappraise' career options at this point.
After that point though the 'whittling' of the 70ish that enter Dartmouth, EFT, BFT are whittled down to about 55 prior to being spat onto the Front Line Sqn's.
As we say in the RN we can 'veer and haul' the figure as required!
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As CS has said, when I did my OASC 27 people started (16 Aircrew Candidates).
There were only 6 of us left at the end, with myself being the only Aircrew Candidate selected.
Im now starting RTS Halton in the coming weeks.
Jamie
There were only 6 of us left at the end, with myself being the only Aircrew Candidate selected.
Im now starting RTS Halton in the coming weeks.
Jamie