Pay Rise on 1st April 09?
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Huey,
Not yet, but the MOD have announced that they are very good at recruitment and retention. Not difficult in a depression though eh.
It could be spin to justify a less than expected pay award.
Not yet, but the MOD have announced that they are very good at recruitment and retention. Not difficult in a depression though eh.
It could be spin to justify a less than expected pay award.
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For what it's worth I reckon the news will break later this evening. Too late for tomorrows headlines to compare and contrast with banker pensions of pounds massive against squaddies peanuts minscule. In any event this post is only to keep the thread nearer to the top so when word is leaked...
The rumour (well this is a rumour website) on another website is that the PM is going to announce all the public sector pay increases in one go, which may be as late as mid March...
Is this a case of spread out, and repeat endlessly, good news stories, but compress, and only state once, bad news...
For those of you thinking they are waiting for the next inflation figures to be published, hoping an inflation rate of 1% will make a 0.75% payrise for the military look good, the next figures are due out on 24 March...put it in your diary!
P.S. - I made up the 0.75% figure!!
Is this a case of spread out, and repeat endlessly, good news stories, but compress, and only state once, bad news...
For those of you thinking they are waiting for the next inflation figures to be published, hoping an inflation rate of 1% will make a 0.75% payrise for the military look good, the next figures are due out on 24 March...put it in your diary!
P.S. - I made up the 0.75% figure!!
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Who, and what, are the Defence Management Board? In fact, don't answer as I reckon the answer would vex me. I would guess the words 'Committee', 'Fair', 'Treatment', 'Vision', 'Value' all appear heavily in their lexicography. 
Thought so, the DMB vision etc is a spewing of corporate arse. Should the irrational need take you, see here:
Ministry of Defence | About Defence | What we do | Defence Management | Defence Board
Thought so, the DMB vision etc is a spewing of corporate arse. Should the irrational need take you, see here:
Ministry of Defence | About Defence | What we do | Defence Management | Defence Board
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Mark my words, CPI will not fall between now and march. Mervyn king and the chancellor are talking out of their arses. Oil has bottomed, the pound will not gain against the dollar/Euro and production across the globe is being scaled back at an unprecidented rate. The Baltic Dry Index is the lowest it has ever been, indicating practically all world trade in 6 months will grind to a halt. No production = decreased supply != decreasing prices.
These metrics do not indicate CPI will fall over the next few months. If anything, they are going to start to go back up. gordons cheeky little 2.5% cut on VAT did little other than reduce CPI to make it all appear as if Inflation is falling. He really has ballsed up our economy.
real pay cuts here we come.... to be honest, I dont really care. Speaking to mates in the City and in industry, I am just glad I have a secure job at the mo. Anything else is but Icing on the cake.
These metrics do not indicate CPI will fall over the next few months. If anything, they are going to start to go back up. gordons cheeky little 2.5% cut on VAT did little other than reduce CPI to make it all appear as if Inflation is falling. He really has ballsed up our economy.
real pay cuts here we come.... to be honest, I dont really care. Speaking to mates in the City and in industry, I am just glad I have a secure job at the mo. Anything else is but Icing on the cake.
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Well if you want to know what the AFPRB has recommended for 2009 submit an FOI request to the organisation who compile the report
Office of Manpower Economics
or to make it easy
PUBLICATION SCHEME FOR THE ARMED FORCES' PAY REVIEW BODY
Purpose of the Armed Forces Pay Review Body
The Armed Forces' Pay Review Body is to provide independent advice to the Prime Minister and the Secretary of State for Defence on the remuneration and charges for members of the Naval, Military and Air Forces of the Crown.
Requests for information (which must be made in writing, which includes by fax or e-mail), should be sent to Paul Bush, OME, 6th Floor, Kingsgate House, 66-74 Victoria Street, London, SW1E 6SW or by fax on 020 7215 4445, or by e-mail to [email protected],gov.uk
Office of Manpower Economics
or to make it easy
PUBLICATION SCHEME FOR THE ARMED FORCES' PAY REVIEW BODY
Purpose of the Armed Forces Pay Review Body
The Armed Forces' Pay Review Body is to provide independent advice to the Prime Minister and the Secretary of State for Defence on the remuneration and charges for members of the Naval, Military and Air Forces of the Crown.
Requests for information (which must be made in writing, which includes by fax or e-mail), should be sent to Paul Bush, OME, 6th Floor, Kingsgate House, 66-74 Victoria Street, London, SW1E 6SW or by fax on 020 7215 4445, or by e-mail to [email protected],gov.uk
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After the question "What is the Defence Management Board" just wondered how many out there are familiar with the upper reaches of this Organisation such as the Defence Council, DMB, Defence Ministerial Committee and
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Was disappointed that the 4 Service Chiefs in the photo of the DMB were not wearing their uniforms.
And by the way, no I am not bitter, I left a long time ago I just laugh from now on.
Y_G
Edited to add: the last 12 words
While the jargon is pretty dire, how else do you propose to run an organisation with a £36Bn budget, and which directly affects the lives of roughly 350,000 people? (Forces / Reserves / MOD CS etc).
Whether we like it or not, we do need some kind of management structure at the top, or we'd be in even more of a mess than we are already!
Whether we like it or not, we do need some kind of management structure at the top, or we'd be in even more of a mess than we are already!
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we do need some kind of management structure at the top
As an example of the sort of thing I'm after, this week has seen various grown-ups rushing to try and produce a Stn input to the Gp input to this years Head of Flying Branches Report. Apparently because of a screw-up by a PSO, we had to fight hard to get a very small extension to a deadline in order to at least be able to canvass some of the Stn personnel to find out what the current issues are. Having seen some of the issues raised (both at my Stn and at other Stns) and having read last years final report with annexes from the various AOCs, guess what - pretty much all the inputs are the same as least year.
Yeah there have been lots of placatory noises that MQs are being improved, that getting access to local schools for Service children is being looked into to, that getting access to an NHS dentist is being addressed, that we are trying to reduce the manning gaps to take the pressure off everyone a bit etc etc. But in actual fact, has any issue raised in last years report actually been fully addressed to the point of resolution such that it is no longer an issue. Personally I don't think so.
So give me a leader somewhere at the top that will get things done. One that might decide for example, that if we stop having people swanning off to various parts of Europe studying what happened during various previous wars (because that is really relevent to the modern day isn't it - NOT!), we might just be able to scrape together the money to do something useful.
And relax.....
spheroid,
On the one hand I agree with you, and I haven't e-mail myself, so am not in a position to throw stones...
On the other hand I would quite like somebody in the government/MOD to admit that the report was finished weeks ago, and the announcement is being delayed for political reasons. Still, the chances of the second part happening are.....not a lot!
On the one hand I agree with you, and I haven't e-mail myself, so am not in a position to throw stones...
On the other hand I would quite like somebody in the government/MOD to admit that the report was finished weeks ago, and the announcement is being delayed for political reasons. Still, the chances of the second part happening are.....not a lot!
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Zedder, watch the blood pressure mate!
It might be time to do some digging as to the Working Time Regulations!! Just had an email about leave and the WTR. Apparently only 28 days is a right, the rest????
So what about:
Maximum working week?
Irregular shift patterns?
Overnight working/
I think it's all in there somewhere.
Perhaps we could do the sums and come up with an RAF of about 75,000 strong would keep us within the WTR. (or wind the clock back 15 years!)
It might be time to do some digging as to the Working Time Regulations!! Just had an email about leave and the WTR. Apparently only 28 days is a right, the rest????
So what about:
Maximum working week?
Irregular shift patterns?
Overnight working/
I think it's all in there somewhere.
Perhaps we could do the sums and come up with an RAF of about 75,000 strong would keep us within the WTR. (or wind the clock back 15 years!)
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AA - sounds doom and gloom, but the real WTR MOD regs as contained in DCI JS15/99 make more promising reading......................
...............provided anybody can them implemented without their bosses waving the direct support to operations flag!
I think the point was, the hierarchy are quick to ensure that we comply with the WTR when comes to our leave entitlement, but not when it comes dishing out the work!!
BTW - I believe will still get 30 days , 28 days as a 'right' and 2 priviledge days.
...............provided anybody can them implemented without their bosses waving the direct support to operations flag!
I think the point was, the hierarchy are quick to ensure that we comply with the WTR when comes to our leave entitlement, but not when it comes dishing out the work!!
BTW - I believe will still get 30 days , 28 days as a 'right' and 2 priviledge days.