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Old 26th Mar 2009, 15:53
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armed forces minister response

Armed forces minister was questioned by the shadow defense secretary today in parliament, who asked 'When will the government make a response to the recomendations of the armed forces review body?' The armed forces minister replied 'we are about ready to make our response known to the review body, we shall do so as soon as we are able to. I don't think it is overdue, I am not aware of a set date for the release, we will make the house aware of the result of the AFPRB soon is the only answer I can give the honourable gentleman, and I urge him to be patient'. It was interesting to see the lack of the defense secretary at the parliamentary debate on defense
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 16:13
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I don't think it is overdue, I am not aware of a set date for the release, we will make the house aware of the result of the AFPRB soon is the only answer I can give the honourable gentleman, and I urge him to be patient'
In response to the Honourable Gentleman

1. Well we think it's well overdue.
2. Not aware of a set date ..... try in time for 1 Apr
3. Be patient .... try going to any military installation in the country and saying that.

Yet another demonstration of the complete and utter contempt with which this Government holds the military.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 16:30
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It beggars belief!!!!

Nothing shocks me anymore about this 'Circus' of a government.

My bet is on a board recommendation of around 5%, which is in line with figures mentioned in previous posts and linked to stats from Sep 08. Guess the chumps in London need to grow a ‘pair of danglies’ and endorse it, rather than dithering around looking for other ‘bad news day’ opportunities to hide it.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 16:58
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AFPRB Report Dates

The armed forces minister replied, 'we are about ready to make our response known to the review body, we shall do so as soon as we are able to. I don't think it is overdue, I am not aware of a set date for the release, we will make the house aware of the result of the AFPRB soon is the only answer I can give the honourable gentleman, and I urge him to be patient'.
I believe these are the dates on which previous AFPRB reports have been published:

08 Feb 96
06 Feb 97
29 Jan 98
01 Feb 99
15 Feb 00
09 Feb 01
29 Jan 02
08 Feb 03
23 Feb 04
22 Feb 05
16 Feb 06
01 Mar 07
07 Feb 08

The late release of the AFPRB report in 2007 prompted Lord Garden to ask a question in the House of Lords on 26 Feb 07:

Lord Garden, "With regard to the morale of our troops, this may sound as if it is a long way from operations in Afghanistan, but it will be important to them: when will the Armed Forces Pay Review Body report be published? It is now more overdue than it has ever been, and it will be taken by the troops as a signal of how much the Government value what they are doing".
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 17:19
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I heard on the grapevine that the DefSec had sharp words about this on Monday. He realised too late that Sunday would have been a great day to release the news, as it would have been buried by the outpourings of grief about the death of Jade Goody.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 18:49
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Wen I wur a lad, 't pay rise wasna given t'us til late in't year and wur backdated ti April.

Then again, I'm officially old!
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 20:54
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Lets just face facts.

The LABOUR Party are all Wank*rs and the sooner they do the decent thing and jump on the sword, the better.

Wan*ers I tell you. No respect. Nothing. Loony Jocks & Trogs the lot of them. Wa*kers.
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 09:23
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Not sure what you are trying to say there, FP! Don't sit on the fence next time.

Come on MOD, what's it to be: RPI or CPI?
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 11:35
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We have just been sent the following missive:

From the Deputy Chief of Staff (Personnel). There is much speculation about the recommendations of the AFPRB 2009 and, in particular, the nature of any pay award. The government is considering the AFPRB 2009 recommendations very carefully and an announcement is expected very soon. The current levels of service and wider public interest in these recommendations is well understood, but I would urge all Service Personnel to be patient in the meantime.

Don't forget, any day not in uniform, is a day wasted. I don't want a pay rise, in fact I think I should be paying for the privilege of serving, forget Poets Day, I’m planning on working all weekend just for the fun of it.
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 12:16
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Great leadership from Deputy Chief of Staff (Personnel). Mus'nt grumble, its a priviliage to serve NuLab, mus'nt upset them incase they give us nothing!!

Absolutely had it with this government. Dithering, shambolic and treating those at the sharp end of their failed foreign policy with utter contempt.

Lets face facts; CPI in Sept 08=5% so we should get around that mark, shouldnt we?

The economy is proper fecked, the Govenor of the Bank of England has told Broon & his Darling to stop spending cash and no more tax cuts. Head of the EU has said its reckless for Govt's to try to spend our way out of trouble....

Que more dithering on release of the AFPRB, I perceive the mother of all shaftings coming on.

All public sector workers, will get a below inflation pay rise, ourselves included, however, I think we will get marginally more than nurses, police and the fire shirkers. This will be dressed up as a 'special case for the armed forces' due to Herrick/Telic, as they are 'the best in the world' (as its suits NuLab's doublespeak to say so). Off course, this will be offset by above average Food/SLA/FQ charges.

Our 'leaders' will be placated by Uncle Gordy giving them a bit of praise and a wee pat on the head and we will be told not to whinge, or to paraphrase our ex-CinC STC/Air, "....if you dont want to go to Glasgow, get off the train".

Should people start writing to their MP demanding answers?
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 13:59
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There is much speculation about the recommendations of the AFPRB 2009 and, in particular, the nature of any pay award.
No $hit, Sherlock.

Did you chaps note the word in bold font? 'Any' implies that it is not certain....

It really is time to get rid of nuLabor - there must be a vote of no confidence and a General Election soon, surely?
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 14:27
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Or a military coup
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 14:35
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Ladies and Gents

Instead of moaning on here why not use this service to write to your MP asking them to apply pressure to the Govt to find out why the AFPRB hasn't been released and why the Armed Forces pay award hasn't been announced yet?

If you quote LFFC dates for previous announcements that will give your MP more ammunition.

Over to you.
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 14:39
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2009 DIN 08-007 details the new rates of SFA and non-PAYD messing charges.
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Or Guy Fawkes II!
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Or Conficker I:

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2009 DIN 08-007 details the new rates of SFA and non-PAYD messing charges
I've just picked myself up off the floor after reading that DIN, where it said that the charge for my type of quarter would be £26/day.

After asking a colleague to start my heart again with a little CPR, I checked the title of the DIN - and, thank God, it only applies to non-entitled and international personnel.

Panic over...for now.
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 15:48
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Me too.

It was touch and go as to whether I warned you all. Guess the evil me won that battle.
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 16:23
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But, did you notice the % increases? 3.9% accommodation and 5.6% food. Those % haven't been plucked from thin air ................
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3.9% for accommodation!!?!?!

Dont they know house prices are down around 25% and rents down 15% on last year?

Pay cut in all but name.

If they switch from CPI to RPI it will be a disgrace. We had to put up with sub-inflationary pay rises in the boom years whilst the public sector is still receiving around 3.5% TODAY. Anything less than 3.2% will be an insult. The cut in vat rate was nothing other than a direct fiddle of the inflation figures.

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