Pay Rise on 1st April 09?
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On an almost on-topic point, does anyone know the difference between list 1 and list 2 trades? I notice on the RAF community website the pay-scales for 08/09 FSs distinguishes between the two. I've never heard of this. Anyone shed any light?
"And aren't MoD Civil Serpents getting 3-ish% this month ........ backdated to August last year?????? Is that going to affect the AFPRB recommendation. "
The CS deal is a 3 year deal, and averages at 3%, but has managed to reduce the pay spine, so more senior staff in junior grades end up loosing money! Add to the fact that they only had 3 years notice of when to sort it out, and the fact that they didnt start negotiating till Nov, its a miracle anything happened at all.
CS pay isn't linked to AFPRB, but its usually a good indicator of where things are heading.
The CS deal is a 3 year deal, and averages at 3%, but has managed to reduce the pay spine, so more senior staff in junior grades end up loosing money! Add to the fact that they only had 3 years notice of when to sort it out, and the fact that they didnt start negotiating till Nov, its a miracle anything happened at all.
CS pay isn't linked to AFPRB, but its usually a good indicator of where things are heading.
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Granted inflation is not a problem at this time - but all Government Pension and the State Old Age Pension increases each year are based on the RPI for the previous September. Thus these pensions will increase by 5% wef April this year. Any attempt to reduce the increase in these Pensions would be Electoral suicide.
Curbing pay increases for those who cannot protest or withdraw their labour becomes a very attractive option in these circumstances.
Curbing pay increases for those who cannot protest or withdraw their labour becomes a very attractive option in these circumstances.
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List 1 includes all the eng trades, as noted above some of the CIS trades, the Int trades, most medical and dental trades and the musicians. Everyone else is List 2.
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Well it would seem the only reason the pay award is not here is the fact the Board who recommend pay used JPA to enter there details thus a bigger delay. JPA im sure asked for more hamsters to turn the computers but even hamster recruitment is getting difficult 
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Well, If the 'Delay' in posting the AFPRB report, was based on an 'expected' sharp drop in inflation, their plan may have back-fired. CPI for Sept 08 (The usual metric) was 5.1% and it's fallen to 3%. The RPI, which the gov didn't used to use, as it is typically higher than the CPI, was 5.0% falling to 0.9%.
So, I'll very interested to hear, how they justify a rise of say..... 1.5%
Belts Tightening, setting an example, future inflation trends, all pull together, blah blah blah?
Ofcourse, we should actually get 3-4.5%, which would be fair, but I don't think we will.
Here's hoping,
Advo
So, I'll very interested to hear, how they justify a rise of say..... 1.5%
Belts Tightening, setting an example, future inflation trends, all pull together, blah blah blah?
Ofcourse, we should actually get 3-4.5%, which would be fair, but I don't think we will.
Here's hoping,
Advo
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Pound to a pinch of pig s
t they will go back to using RPI again!!! They only changed to CPI because house prices were taking CPI through the roof!!
wooooooshhh - there go the goal posts!!!
t they will go back to using RPI again!!! They only changed to CPI because house prices were taking CPI through the roof!!wooooooshhh - there go the goal posts!!!
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Uh oh.
Coincidentally (or not), there was an vacancy in the latest Sunday Times Appointments section for the Chair of the AFPRB. One wonders, did the previous encumbent resign?!
Coincidentally (or not), there was an vacancy in the latest Sunday Times Appointments section for the Chair of the AFPRB. One wonders, did the previous encumbent resign?!
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Given that my main residence is an aluminium show box in Kandahar, can I claim a second home residence for 'p.m. towers' of £22,100 pa. Seems to work for Jackie Smith.
Will FRI rise from 100k to 138k, or be cut to zero immediately? Both rumours are circulating at the moment!
Will FRI rise from 100k to 138k, or be cut to zero immediately? Both rumours are circulating at the moment!
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Keen observers of the annual AFPRB drama will recall that the 2007 AFPRB report was not published until 1st March. Mind you, that was only after Lord Garden asked the following question in the House of Lords on 26 Feb 07:
It's so sad and tragic that we lost such a wonderful figurehead who always fought our case.
4:31pm - Lord Garden "With regard to the morale of our troops, this may sound as if it is a long way from operations in Afghanistan, but it will be important to them: when will the Armed Forces Pay Review Body report be published? It is now more overdue than it has ever been, and it will be taken by the troops as a signal of how much the Government value what they are doing."
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Who will ask the question then...
I have asked my MP to ask the question by email as I am in 'a sandpit' and have no mail access whatsoever. The FCO will not support us even though we are here at their bidding. I dont hold out much hope of an answer and dont hold out much hope of a rise.
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Dont quote me on this but Friday the 27th was mentioned a few months ago. Im stabbing in the dark but makes sense, give everyone crap news over a weekend to ponder on it. It cant be beggining of March can it ? Its always last few weeks in Feb
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This is great for Morale.... At least when we know the outcome, we will undersatnd just how badly we have been shafted again.
When are they going to release the bad news? Someone must know ?
Come on Tell Us ?
When are they going to release the bad news? Someone must know ?
Come on Tell Us ?