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Old 24th Mar 2009, 06:55
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... but it does say...

Unions have previously tried to revise pay deals upwards but, with deflation looming, this is the first time that employers have used the same rules to squeeze pay. However, the Armed Forces are likely to enjoy slightly higher rises to reflect demanding deployments in Iraq and Afghan-istan and a retention crisis.
So there's hope yet. Not much, granted, but hope nonetheless.
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Big Freeze Hits?

Todays info in Times Online makes a start with speculation for NHS but the alarming bit is the reference within to the timing of public sector pay decisions. The article suggests the news was due tomorrow but now may be delayed due to " content and timing".

As ex RAF now working in private sector I, like many, have just learned of a pay freeze with a suspension of incremental rises too! For all the understandable concerns about pay we can only really "take it or leave it" but think very hard about how you might not always improve your lot (in just monetary terms) by leaving in a huff.

Meanwhile, the wait continues......
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BBC reporting that inflation has hit 0%

BBC NEWS | Business | Key inflation measure hits zero

So the pay announcement must be imminent!!
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Tony McNulty row: MPs call for £40,000 pay rise - Telegraph

MPs willing to swap their £24,000 housing allowance that is open to abuse for £40,000 pay rise instead!

I wouldn't p**s down their throat if it was on fire!
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Old 24th Mar 2009, 12:04
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Looks like some of the scribblies over on E-Goat have been searching about on JPA at the payscales for next year and come up with some figures...

E-Goat :: The Totally Unofficial Royal Air Force Rumour Network forums - View Single Post - Pay Rise 2009
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Old 24th Mar 2009, 15:02
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When I joined the Royal Air Force as an Officer Cadet, the day after Sir Winston Churchill died, my daily rate of pay was £0 17s 3d (that 86.25 pence) before Tax and National Insurance. Food and accommodation were, however, free.

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Pension

The pension cannot be raped as one contributor suggests. If anyone remembered the change from 75 to 05, it has protected rights under law.
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Cazatou

Mine too, we must have joined about the same time? 2 Jan 67 at Henlow for me.

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Old 24th Mar 2009, 16:00
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Navibrator,

That may be all very well but HMG are practically bankrupt and the public sector pension deficit is HUGE. MP's pensions are actually funded unlike ours....
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Old 24th Mar 2009, 16:04
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But, cazatou, wasn't beer around 1/10d a pint?

Tell that to 't youth of today.......
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Our pensions are not `free` or `unfunded` as the military salary is abated at source by approx 8% to take into account the benefits provided by the AFPS.
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Pension funds

Stan,

The pensions are 'unfunded' from the point of view that there is no 'pot' in which they are held. They come from the tax burden and small contributions from the individual. As we stand, the public sector pension deficit if £1 Trillion! With the current situation, with the nationalization of the banks etc and 10 years of gross financial mismanagement there simply isn't the money to pay for our pensions.

MPs have a dedicated set-aside fund, unlike us.

Legal right or not, if there aint the money there aint the money. I am skeptical as to whether I'll see a pension in the order of what I would have epected a few years back.

UK Plc is worse off than many nations; our woes make the USA's look like a tea party!

As far as a pay rise.........where's the money coming from?!!! And don't just say the taxpayer, as that's the thinking of GB who steered us into this mess with that kind of logic. We'll be robbing Peter to pay for Paul.

Just to have a job at the moment is a good thing. Besides, we're in deflation (despite official figures) and many are getting cuts not rises.
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 10:34
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You went in the Saloon Bar then?
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 10:48
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If you feel strongly about the pay issues in HM forces, sign this petition Petition
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 12:36
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Harriet Harman was asked by a pleasant Con MP as to why the AFPRB submitted its report in Jan and yet we still don't know what our pay is next week. Like every other question today she didn't really answer it and just stated the goverment's commitment to the armed forces. Indeed.
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Jack, from the way I understood Harriet Harpersons reply, the Defence Secretary will be making a statement tomorrow about this matter. I did note that it would be a statement not the details of the pay rise.
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 18:08
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Extract from Hansard of today's PMQs

Q5. [266013] Mr. Philip Dunne (Ludlow) (Con): The Armed Forces Pay Review Body submitted its report to the Prime Minister on 29 January. Why should our personnel serving in the field still have no idea whether they will get any pay rise by Wednesday next week? Does the delay reflect more about the Government’s attitude towards the armed forces, or is it another example of dithering incompetence?
Ms Harman: The Government have been unswerving, and rightly so, in our commitment to our armed forces. The Minister of State for Defence will open a full day’s debate on the armed services tomorrow, and I am sure that he will address that point.
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 19:08
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PR09 I wonder ??
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 15:36
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Anyone heard any formal news yet?
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Hurry up and wait some more. I believe that when the question was asked in Parliament today, the reply was "Soon".

Brilliant huh!
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