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Didn't watch her last night - Lt Cdr Joanne Gallaway ITV2 or SAC Whoever she was Ch5? No contest.
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(The odd adjustment could have crossed my desk)
In the last few weeks the RAF have had RAF at 90 on 90 mins of BBC 2 prime time and the Channel 5 Soap Opera War Zone currently running. Both programmes have shown a balance of operations and good times had by all. Jet Fighters blasting their way to the hevens protecting our country in one prog, and pretty little girl in the other with the message lifes not that bad on operations in the RAF.
Even though many folks on this and other forums were not happy about the progs, due to the fact it did not show this trade or another branch doing their bit. Think back to why you wanted to join the RAF, for those who like me left school at 16 on Friday and joined the RAF the following Wednesday. I saw the film Battle of Britain when I was 10 and thought I will have some of that. Wanted to be a V Bomber pilot and some kind of Space Gunner, but they said you can be a stacker at 16 and we will pay you £11.00 quid a week (1976). What a fortune where do I sign.
We are entering a bad time in the UK and this is the best time for the service to get the best youngsters. Next year Peter Jackson going to spend millions on the new Dambusters film, and no dout you lot will slag it off. But the point is its not for you, but some youngster whom it may just put the seed in their heads to be a Fighter pilot or Stacker. The RAF will get 20 years of adverts for nothing off the back of the film.
If you are young and got more than two brain cells and you want to join the services, which one should I think of.
In the last few weeks the RAF have had RAF at 90 on 90 mins of BBC 2 prime time and the Channel 5 Soap Opera War Zone currently running. Both programmes have shown a balance of operations and good times had by all. Jet Fighters blasting their way to the hevens protecting our country in one prog, and pretty little girl in the other with the message lifes not that bad on operations in the RAF.
Even though many folks on this and other forums were not happy about the progs, due to the fact it did not show this trade or another branch doing their bit. Think back to why you wanted to join the RAF, for those who like me left school at 16 on Friday and joined the RAF the following Wednesday. I saw the film Battle of Britain when I was 10 and thought I will have some of that. Wanted to be a V Bomber pilot and some kind of Space Gunner, but they said you can be a stacker at 16 and we will pay you £11.00 quid a week (1976). What a fortune where do I sign.
We are entering a bad time in the UK and this is the best time for the service to get the best youngsters. Next year Peter Jackson going to spend millions on the new Dambusters film, and no dout you lot will slag it off. But the point is its not for you, but some youngster whom it may just put the seed in their heads to be a Fighter pilot or Stacker. The RAF will get 20 years of adverts for nothing off the back of the film.
If you are young and got more than two brain cells and you want to join the services, which one should I think of.
Bugger, missed Mondays episode. Does anyone know if it is repeated before next week? I have now selected Series Link on SkyPlus....better late etc etc.
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Didn't she say something along the lines of "I don't really know what firemen do"
"I don't mind carrying it when it's unloaded, but when it's loaded, it makes me nervous".
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Is little Kate back in the uk yet and available for lunch!? Or dinner or breakfast for that matter?!!
Welsh girls, -always such charmers!!!!!
Has Bob Judson lost weight or is it me!??
Poor old Bollard, Didn't get the reds, has done a load of PR and they still want him to have that a la mode sand blasted look! - You get your ATPLs done Bolle and find an airline that loves ya!
All that aside, always thinking of all of you that go out there.
Welsh girls, -always such charmers!!!!!Has Bob Judson lost weight or is it me!??
Poor old Bollard, Didn't get the reds, has done a load of PR and they still want him to have that a la mode sand blasted look! - You get your ATPLs done Bolle and find an airline that loves ya!
All that aside, always thinking of all of you that go out there.
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After watching multiple programs from the brave reporters and produces who waddle off to AFG looking for their "golden globes" or what ever they get for been brave little souls! I do start to wonder where it is going to end, how many times can ross kemp leave his camera man stranded at a FOB cos there wasn't enough spaces on the chinook for them both!
But taking "Warzone" for what it is, is a good bit of PR for the RAF. This program is not for serving or ex members of the forces, but for the interest of people who will never go out to places like AFG. All those shiny GPMG's and bayonets look good on camera, how many bits of footage can you get of rounds getting boxed up! And as for the gunners who were blown up by an IED (as reported in the Birmingham post report) they had the unfortunate look of hitting a legacy mine (as told to me by an experienced RAF SNCO).
On the flip side of the coin people who have served out there look at programs like this with a smile because they can finally show loved ones where they served and places they went. But if i had the choice of serving deep down south, and the holiday camp that is KAF..... i choose KAF!
Let the avalanche begin!
But taking "Warzone" for what it is, is a good bit of PR for the RAF. This program is not for serving or ex members of the forces, but for the interest of people who will never go out to places like AFG. All those shiny GPMG's and bayonets look good on camera, how many bits of footage can you get of rounds getting boxed up! And as for the gunners who were blown up by an IED (as reported in the Birmingham post report) they had the unfortunate look of hitting a legacy mine (as told to me by an experienced RAF SNCO).
On the flip side of the coin people who have served out there look at programs like this with a smile because they can finally show loved ones where they served and places they went. But if i had the choice of serving deep down south, and the holiday camp that is KAF..... i choose KAF!
Let the avalanche begin!
Thought the second episode was a 'little' better. The Firemen, Movers and C130 det seemed to come across well.
The Regt seemed to have mixed fortunes. thought the Sgt comes across quite professionally, but not sure how Mr 'dog tags n bayonet' fares in the wider world. Looks a bit of a muppet, but as has been pointed out, we are not the target audience.
Still watch the young lady with bewilderment. Having explained she doesnt know what a Fireman does, and that she is rendered nervous by her own weapon, I fail to see how she will reach out to the target audience.
She is a lovely individual, but do we really need a whole new generation who hold her as a role model?
The Regt seemed to have mixed fortunes. thought the Sgt comes across quite professionally, but not sure how Mr 'dog tags n bayonet' fares in the wider world. Looks a bit of a muppet, but as has been pointed out, we are not the target audience.
Still watch the young lady with bewilderment. Having explained she doesnt know what a Fireman does, and that she is rendered nervous by her own weapon, I fail to see how she will reach out to the target audience.
She is a lovely individual, but do we really need a whole new generation who hold her as a role model?
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Regt Sgt professional eh? Not my first thought as all his lads were mincing about looking for their weapons in a rabble. Shocking. Ripe for a re-brief, he is.
I can't help but think we look like a bunch of slack arsed amateurs. Hopefully, if the audience is as unaware as our Kate, they'll not notice. But I doubt it.
I can't help but think we look like a bunch of slack arsed amateurs. Hopefully, if the audience is as unaware as our Kate, they'll not notice. But I doubt it.
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I find that statement a bit harsh. Not all of his lads were looking for their weapons. . Don’t forget they are young and scared of what they are about to embark on. Cut them some slack.
Sorry but I find that comment completely offensive. If you have ever been involved in any form of deployment to OOA I fail to see how you can make such a comment.
as all his lads were mincing about looking for their weapons in a rabble. Shocking.
I can't help but think we look like a bunch of slack arsed amateurs.
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Getting the basics right is non-negotiable in a so-called 'warzone'. I allow them a great deal of latitude wrt inner feelings about their mission, but as soldiers, they appear unprofessional on that show.
Don't take offence chum, you're not in the program! Those who are, appear to me to be a poor reflection on what the RAF is truly capable of. Yes, I have been away, 700 days on Ops, over a mix of desert, (both Iraq x 4 and Afg x 2), Balkans, and before you ask, NI, but only 20 days there.
I post not to denegrate the RAF, channel 5 is doing that more than efficiently, but out of pure frustration that I know there are far better facets that we could display, but are not.
I am sure you are one of those.
Don't take offence chum, you're not in the program! Those who are, appear to me to be a poor reflection on what the RAF is truly capable of. Yes, I have been away, 700 days on Ops, over a mix of desert, (both Iraq x 4 and Afg x 2), Balkans, and before you ask, NI, but only 20 days there.
I post not to denegrate the RAF, channel 5 is doing that more than efficiently, but out of pure frustration that I know there are far better facets that we could display, but are not.
I am sure you are one of those.
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It’s a TV Programme.
If you have spent 700+ days on operational deployment, communicating with all on that deployment, you might appreciate that they are all professional.
It’s a TV Programme.
If you have spent 700+ days on operational deployment, communicating with all on that deployment, you might appreciate that they are all professional.
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Another PR own goal for the RAF I see.
Jeez do you guys get lessons on how to look a tit?
Jeez do you guys get lessons on how to look a tit?
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