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Old 17th Oct 2008, 12:29
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Originally Posted by VinRouge
Anyone know what the new CinC(Air) is like as a chap?

Anyone know if Clive Loader has got off the train then?
Mind the live rail Sir.



Gone in a flash?
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Old 17th Oct 2008, 12:31
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Great News, my personal forecast was for SD to be CAS in 3 years time. Also wondering what is going to happen with AM McNicholl??? And a navigator as a three star - perhaps the biggest surprise!
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Let's hope that the curse of Pprune approval doesn't hit ACM Dalton -

Look at this thread from two years ago and see how the consensus was that the incoming CAS was a top chap. Now, the poor s*d can't seem to breathe without being criticised...
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Old 17th Oct 2008, 13:58
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Airship Appointments

And no mention of AM David Walker. I know he has a 'polarising' effect on people, both in and outside the RAF, but he is very much his own man and prepared to stand by what he thinks (even if others reckon he's a few sandwiches short of a picnic). Kamikaze into the airliner anyone?
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Old 17th Oct 2008, 14:27
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Let's face it, it doesn't matter how good a guy he was or what a great boss he was. We all know that the higher they go, the more they change. More power and more pressure, both things that will cloud a man's perception of what is happening around him and, of course, those below him will only tell him what it is they think he want to here, "yes everyone is happy, morale has never been higher"
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Old 17th Oct 2008, 17:00
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Anyone know what the new CinC(Air) is like as a chap?
Switched on is correct. Had his enemies along the way, but I liked his decisiveness and he usually made the right call. Very bright.
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Old 17th Oct 2008, 17:06
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I notice that AVM Bryant gets promoted. If you have received a letter assuring you that the lost data isn't an identity theft risk to yourself, his is the signature at the bottom of the letter! Clearly accountability doesn't apply, or maybe the Peter Principle has been applied.
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Old 17th Oct 2008, 17:14
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New CinC(Air) wasn't known as TCM while staish at Wittering for no reason!
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Old 17th Oct 2008, 20:26
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All Change

What with Glen and Clive moving on...2 lilly-livered political 'yes-men' out of the way...'thanks for your efforts' but totally ineffectual and YOU WILL MOSTLY BE REMEMBERED for over-seeing the 'death' of the RAF.....

What chance have the 2 new blokes got..no money..over stretched, moral all time low and ........ by now a third rate Air Force (not due to lack of effort or commitment from the troops I must point out) .....thank you Labour!

RIP..

oh dear....the downward spiral continues...
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Old 17th Oct 2008, 20:26
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Simon Bryant was an inspiration to me, as a junior officer, a decade ago at Leuchars. A true gentleman and a real leader, unlike many already mentioned. Promotion couldn't have happened to a more worthy man.
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 00:16
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Sir Glenn has done a great job moving the RAF on, despite the best efforts of the politicians. Sir Clive......another story....
Steve Dalton and Simon Bryant are really top guys. They know ops and they connect with people. And they deliver. We should be in good hands.
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 03:01
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In May 2007, Air Marshal Dalton was appointed Deputy Commander in Chief Personnel and Air Member for Personnel
So this would be the aircrew mate that oversaw the introduction of the much loved JPA system was it?

Top man, who actually cares about people for a change
An inspired choice
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 04:16
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So this would be the aircrew mate that oversaw the introduction of the much loved JPA system was it?
Sorry to disappoint but JPA was introduced/inflicted on the RAF on 1 Apr 06, a while before AM Dalton assumed responsibility as DCINC Pers.
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 17:46
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The man who oversaw that has now retired from the RAF and is now a consultant for.....

EDS!

So at least one bloke benefitted from its introduction.
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 18:21
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Think JPA was a product from Pocock, (AM) the then DCDS Pers.
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 19:31
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I noticed that the army chap in the BBC article is wearing US star type rank badges.. is this to prevent confusion, or "friendly fire" from hyped up US Marines?
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 19:43
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Sir Glenn is currently 55. I thought air rank officers could serve until they were 60?

If that is so, what would have happened if he had not elected to reitre? Has the post of CAS only come up because he is retiring, or is it a time thing. As I said before, if his time in post had come to an end and he didn't wish to retire then what would happen.........
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Old 18th Oct 2008, 19:53
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Archimedes; Top work wih the thread link, it said everything that I was thinking about the euphoria over Sir Glenn's appointment. I only met the new guy once but I worked with/for a family member of his who seemed surprised and delighted (in equal measure) at his appointment to AVM so I wonder what he's making of this latest elevation.

It would seem that it's "Events, dear boy, events," rather than individual ability that matter once you've climbed to the top of the pole.

Has anyone got a nominee for the best CAS of recent memory (say the last 90 years or so?) I'd throw Peter Squires hat in the ring myself, if only for his people skills.
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Old 19th Oct 2008, 04:16
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Moose57

Sir Glenn has done a great job moving the RAF on

Can you explain to us just what exactly you think Torpey has done for the RAF, and perhaps you could tell us in which direction you think the RAF has moved since his appointment?

I don't know this new guy, but IMHO anyone has to be better than Torps'

TSM
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Old 19th Oct 2008, 07:17
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It seems like only yesterday that Glenn Torpy got the top post. Have Air Officers tours been compressed in recent times to make sure everyone gets a go? Where's he going? Surely he's not retiring at 55?
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