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Old 17th Oct 2008, 06:33
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BBC NEWS | UK | New head of Army to be confirmed

"Air Marshal Stephen Dalton will step into the role of Chief of the Air Staff, replacing Air Chief Marshal Sir Glenn Torpy."

Apres moi, le memoire?
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Great News

An inspired choice; a Top bloke and true Gent at the top of the RAF - everyone should believe that people really do matter with Steve Dalton at the helm.

Best news I have heard in a while
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Lets hope he has a pair of b***s and the backbone to stand up for his troops then, unlike the current ****.
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Does that mean that Sir Clive's man management and leadership qualities have finally been sussed. So for the man who said "if you don't like where the train is going, get off" has been passed over for the top job and had a junior officer made his boss. Sounds like a vote of no confidence to me - time for him to follow Sir Ian me thinks and throw himself off the train!!!
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I'd be interested to know the mechanics of it all. Is there a formal interview process, are the candidates told 6 months before that it is a passive process, is it pre ordained a year or so before, do the other Chiefs have input as to whether they can get on with the new bloke, is he screened primarily for political savvy?

Or is it like electing the new pope, desined to be shrouded in mystery?
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Jacko will be pleased and a break from the Harrier Maffier
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So for the man who said "if you don't like where the train is going, get off" has been passed over
I always liked that analogy; I wish I'd been there at the time tho. Perhaps then I could've told him that whilst I was generally happy to be on said "rough" train I would've been happier knowing that a) it was serviceable and the wheels weren't about to fall off and b) the driver was actually driving the thing instead of randomly wandering about the carriages checking the passengers all had their PE kit whilst the train hurtled towards the buffers at Glasgow station.....

How far can I stretch this analogy......?

Anyway, given that my GSK stretches as far as knowing that we've got Phantoms at Wildenrath and JPs at Church Fenton, what's the new chap's background - not Harriers I take it..?
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Yes, but the buffet car is closed and just around the next bend there is the wrong type of snow on the line.
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SS - Jags.

A great choice.
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AIR MARSHAL S G G DALTON CB BSc FRAeS MCMI RAF

Air Marshal Stephen Dalton joined the RAF after graduating with a 2.1 honours degree in Aeronautical Engineering from Bath University. Subsequently, whilst based in the UK and Germany, he flew the Jaguar on 3 tours in the tactical reconnaissance and ground attack roles. During these tours he flew on exercises in Europe (Norway, Italy, France and Spain), the USA and Canada. On completion of the Advanced Staff Course, Air Marshal Dalton commanded No 13 Squadron flying the Tornado GR1A, during which he was deployed on Operation JURAL flying reconnaissance missions over Iraq; for part of the period he was the Commander British Forces JURAL for Op SOUTHERN WATCH in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

Air Marshal Dalton commanded Royal Air Force Coltishall and the RAF’s Jaguar Force for 2 years from September 1997. On promotion to Air Commodore he was appointed as Director of the Eurofighter Programme Assurance Group in the Ministry of Defence London. After attending the Higher Command Staff Course in 2002, he was appointed the Director of Air Operations in Ministry of Defence, a period which was dominated by the preparation for and conduct of Operation TELIC - the UK contribution to the multi-national operations in Iraq in 2003.

A tour followed as the Capability Manager for Information Superiority with specific responsibilities for Command, Control and Information Infrastructure and for Intelligence, Surveillance, Target Acquisition and Reconnaissance. In April 2004 Air Marshal Dalton was appointed Controller Aircraft, a post which carried with it a place on the Air Force Board and which he carried with him into his next position when, in May 2006, he took up the appointment of Director General Typhoon in the Ministry of Defence.

In May 2007, Air Marshal Dalton was appointed Deputy Commander in Chief Personnel and Air Member for Personnel, based at HQ Air Command, RAF High Wycombe. He will succeed Air Chief Marshal Sir Glenn Torpy as the next Chief of the Air Staff in July 2009 on promotion to the rank of Air Chief Marshal.



And for info., Stoppers, there are no Jags at Colt or Bruggen these days...
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From the MoD:

Currently serving as Deputy Commander-in-Chief Personnel, Air Marshal Stephen Dalton will take up post as Chief of the Air Staff on 31 July 2009.

Air Marshal Dalton will be succeeded in turn as Deputy Commander-in-Chief Personnel by Air Vice-Marshal Simon Bryant, who will be promoted to the rank of Air Marshal on taking up his new appointment.

Air Marshal Christopher Moran is promoted to the rank of Air Chief Marshal and will take up the post of Commander-in-Chief Air Command and Air Aide-de-Camp to Her Majesty The Queen. He succeeds Air Chief Marshal Sir Clive Loader who is retiring.
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A tour followed as the Capability Manager for Information Superiority with specific responsibilities for Command, Control and Information Infrastructure and for Intelligence, Surveillance, Target Acquisition and Reconnaissance
Before Dii/f I hope.
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He's a very nice chap who really does have a genuine interest in the welfare of the troops. I hope he doesn't get turned by the political side of his new job, I guess that can happen to the best of them. I am looking forward to his time at the top. Anyone know who is replacing him as AMP?
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I know that not everybody likes him, and some people I respect who know him far better do seem to have reservations, but with the luxury of being entirely unaffected by his appointment, I am over-joyed. I haven't spoken to him since he was a one-star but in that job (a difficult one which he did very well, and still found time for journos), and as Coltishall staish, I had some dealings with him, and he was an absolute joy.

Journo chums and I have been discussing this since before the weekend (I was the dimwit who said "surely not yet, is he senior enough already?"), and in this limited circle there was consensus that he's a very good bloke indeed, posh as can be (is he Lord Melchett's talented younger brother?) and with beautiful manners and interpersonal skills. Modest, self-deprecating, appreciative of his people, personally able, and with a great sense of humour, as a Staish and a one star he CERTAINLY had balls and drive. (But I'd recognise that many blokes with those attributes seem to lose them as they scramble higher up the greasy pole).

And as a Jag mate, he should have a healthy scepticism about the process of sloughing off more and more engineering function to BAE, having had direct experience of Jaguar 96/97. He'll also have a good idea of maintainability, deployability and expeditionary ops. He has a Tornado squadron 'tick in the box' and his Typhoon knowledge will be unrivalled among very senior officers.

I'd want to congratulate him, and add further to the burden of expectation!

Well done, sir, and jolly good luck.

PS: Why wasn't it Chris Moran? He must have been 'next in line' and he always seemed switched on and very able.
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Old 17th Oct 2008, 10:00
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For those interested

AIR RANK APPOINTMENTS LIST 7/08

Air Marshal S G G Dalton CB to be promoted Air Chief Marshal and to be Chief of the Air Staff and Air Aide-de-Camp to Her Majesty The Queen on 31 July 2009, in succession to Air Chief Marshal Sir Glenn Torpy GCB CBE DSO ADC.

Air Marshal C H Moran OBE MVO to be promoted Air Chief Marshal and to be Commander-in-Chief Air Command and Air Aide-de-Camp to Her Majesty The Queen on 3 April 2009, in succession to Air Chief Marshal Sir Clive Loader KCB OBE ADC.

Air Vice-Marshal S Bryant CBE to be promoted Air Marshal and to be Deputy Commander-in-Chief (Personnel) Headquarters Air Command and the Air Member for Personnel on 1 April 2009, in succession to Air Marshal S G G Dalton CB.

Air Vice-Marshal R F Garwood CBE DFC to be Chief of Staff (Operations) Headquarters Air Command in July 2009, in succession to Air Vice-Marshal N D A Maddox CBE who is retiring from the Service.

Air Commodore B M North OBE to be promoted Air Vice-Marshal and to be Air Officer Commanding No 22 Group/Chief of Staff Training Headquarters Air Command in July 2009, in succession to Air Vice-Marshal R F Garwood CBE DFC.

Air Commodore G E Stacey MBE to be promoted Air Vice-Marshal and to be Senior British Military Advisor to United States Central Command on 18 March 2009, in succession to Maj Gen J H Thomas DSO.
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With all the comings and goings, what happened to AM McNicoll?

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Anyone know what the new CinC(Air) is like as a chap?

Anyone know if Clive Loader has got off the train then?
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The new CinC Air is very good with journos. Very sharp, very open, and very personable. I believe that he was a good squadron CO, years back.
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Capability Manager for Information Superiority with specific responsibilities for Command, Control and Information Infrastructure and for Intelligence, Surveillance, Target Acquisition and Reconnaissance.
Is that a bit like a Chief Intelligence Officer (CIO) then?
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Excellent news. With ACM Dalton at the helm we just might have a chance of surviving the 1ooyr experiment! LOL
Top man, who actually cares about people for a change
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