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And another thing...
Heard today that the uniform tax relief thingy is to be thrown in the bin. From next year we may be looking at one for one swappage of our beautiful blues rather than have to pay good money for them. As a poor sod who has started to have to wear them for the first time in years, I am appalled at the poor quality of the polyester/nylon/viscose shirt. If they become free I will be exchanging them rather more regularly than the toilet who came up with this crap idea would like.
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Obviously it was the Treasury that was paying out the £72 whereas the MOD would have had to spend their own £72 per officer with no prospect of getting it back from the Treasury.
You will still be able to claim tax relief for laundry, dry cleaning and major replacement that you cannot get from stores.
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Despite all the arguments for and against wearing blues, what is massively apparent is No2 HD, or whatever it is called is, is dated and awful!!
My next door neighbour thought I worked for the RSPCA!! I have even heard stories of guys being mistaken for St Johns Ambulance! We are supposed to be an armed force yet the powers that be dress us like f-ing clowns (no offence to the RSPCA or SJA). If they are that bothered about what we wear then they should create a uniform that we are proud to wear. Take a leaf out of the Aussies book with a smart, snappy uniform that looks good!!!
Forget the leaning team lets hire Gok Wan!!!
By the way why do all senior officers wear brevets on their shirts? Are we minions allowed to do that? Is that in QR's?
My next door neighbour thought I worked for the RSPCA!! I have even heard stories of guys being mistaken for St Johns Ambulance! We are supposed to be an armed force yet the powers that be dress us like f-ing clowns (no offence to the RSPCA or SJA). If they are that bothered about what we wear then they should create a uniform that we are proud to wear. Take a leaf out of the Aussies book with a smart, snappy uniform that looks good!!!
Forget the leaning team lets hire Gok Wan!!!
By the way why do all senior officers wear brevets on their shirts? Are we minions allowed to do that? Is that in QR's?
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Browns?
What will sunshine airways staff wear? There is no Joe Public to impress so will they have to wear KD or can they wear DPM?
Why not issue everyone with Air Force blue DPM?
Why not issue everyone with Air Force blue DPM?
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Calm down, calm down. As someone has already said, there should be little or no impact on those in actual flying jobs - no mention of no 2s to drive to work, or go to SHQ etc etc. I see some battles with some over-zealous SWOs, though!
What bothers me more is that it is a direct attack on CS95. We had just got to the point where many were op focussed in the RAF, getting away from our 1990s Mon-Fri 8-5 office image, and some idiot (with all due respect, sir) decides to bin that and remind us that we should be Mon-Fri 8-5, don't get ops oriented. Because that is what no 2s symbolize. I hate to say it but the army have gone the right way - CS95 if not in specialist kit.
What bothers me more is that it is a direct attack on CS95. We had just got to the point where many were op focussed in the RAF, getting away from our 1990s Mon-Fri 8-5 office image, and some idiot (with all due respect, sir) decides to bin that and remind us that we should be Mon-Fri 8-5, don't get ops oriented. Because that is what no 2s symbolize. I hate to say it but the army have gone the right way - CS95 if not in specialist kit.
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A previous poster stated that this decision was bad for morale. I disagree, there are a lot of would be non (frustrated?) flyers out there and it has done a world of good for our morale.
Yes I am being petty - but to see the aircrew coming in their (sometimes quite scruffy) grow bags when you know they have not flown for 12 months and know that they get this 'uniform' for free when we have to pay for our blues is galling.
Aircrew I work with say that they are proud of being aircrew and want people to know - and that is a fair point, I would be proud if I had become aircrew. But maybe a better way would be the wearing of brevets on items of blue other than the wooly pully?
As an ex-airman I had to get out of my denims to go anywhere other than work - the rules have always been there for aircrew to act in a similar way, they chose to believe that they were above the rules
Yes I am being petty - but to see the aircrew coming in their (sometimes quite scruffy) grow bags when you know they have not flown for 12 months and know that they get this 'uniform' for free when we have to pay for our blues is galling.
Aircrew I work with say that they are proud of being aircrew and want people to know - and that is a fair point, I would be proud if I had become aircrew. But maybe a better way would be the wearing of brevets on items of blue other than the wooly pully?
As an ex-airman I had to get out of my denims to go anywhere other than work - the rules have always been there for aircrew to act in a similar way, they chose to believe that they were above the rules
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If they become free I will be exchanging them rather more regularly than the toilet who came up with this crap idea would like.
As for wearing Blues when not flying.....Give me a day or a night when I'm not flying and I'll gladly wear them...
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Agree with Backwards there is enough wriggle room over flying suits, however little for those who regularly wear CS95.
Those on joint units where CS95 is worn to enable "esprit de cours" and "operational focus" will now be forced to be the odd ones out and no doubt the brunt of more pongo stick. If this is really about making us more recognisable to the civvies, then its time blues were updated and better quality. The other day one of my guys was in Dixons when a punter leaving the store opened his bag to show him the contents!
If this is how the AFB thinks it can improve matters and retention then I am finally convinced they are in a different Air Force to me!
Those on joint units where CS95 is worn to enable "esprit de cours" and "operational focus" will now be forced to be the odd ones out and no doubt the brunt of more pongo stick. If this is really about making us more recognisable to the civvies, then its time blues were updated and better quality. The other day one of my guys was in Dixons when a punter leaving the store opened his bag to show him the contents!
If this is how the AFB thinks it can improve matters and retention then I am finally convinced they are in a different Air Force to me!
What a laugh!
Some of you 'kids' really need a reality check about priorities in life. BooHoo, can't wear my precious flying suit, boohoo, I might just blend in with the rest of the RAF and lose my macho identity!!
Get over yourselves!! You'll all be 'flying' UAVs in 20 years and there will be no need for the 'winged master-race'
He he!!
Some of you 'kids' really need a reality check about priorities in life. BooHoo, can't wear my precious flying suit, boohoo, I might just blend in with the rest of the RAF and lose my macho identity!!
Get over yourselves!! You'll all be 'flying' UAVs in 20 years and there will be no need for the 'winged master-race'
He he!!
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Little bird tells me that they do wish to do away with the officers buy their own kit anomaly and thus eek out as much life as possible. Some idea of issuing tokens - shades of a cash value allowance system that pertained in the 60s but for officers too.
New twist though, you order from a catalgue and have a free home delivery service. Saves on stores. Also means the parcel will be delivered when no one is at home and it will have gone back to the depot and back to the store if not claimed in 5 days.
Once you get it you will still need to visit the station tailor for it to be cut to shape and size.
New twist though, you order from a catalgue and have a free home delivery service. Saves on stores. Also means the parcel will be delivered when no one is at home and it will have gone back to the depot and back to the store if not claimed in 5 days.
Once you get it you will still need to visit the station tailor for it to be cut to shape and size.
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Are many of the whingers on here aware that they joined a branch of the military? On matters such as dress, drill and other such standard military embuggerments its good form to do as you are told. Of course were you to be ordered to shoot a bunch of nuns then I'd expect you all to question that, but as wearing what you are told to wear is not quite so serious you should totter off to Clothing Stores for some blues and STFU.
Seriously, the Andrew and pongos must breaking a rib laughing at you tarts.
Seriously, the Andrew and pongos must breaking a rib laughing at you tarts.
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Uniform in MoD/London
H'mm - went to London today on duty - stood in a packed commuter train from Maidenhead, wandered through busy Tube station, got onto packed Tube which got even pack'der - to the extent that there was no room to move anywhere for 2 stops. If some (I'm ever so upset about what you're doing to my 'brothers') looney had decided to have a go on either form of public transport or in the underground stations there is little I could have done, and I probably wouldn't even have seen it coming.
First Class travel in uniform would be a start but I'm not at all convinced I'd want to wear it in London in the rush hour; there is still a lot to be said for anonymity! Having said that, wearing a suit and looking like a merchant banker in London might not be a healthy thing soon...
First Class travel in uniform would be a start but I'm not at all convinced I'd want to wear it in London in the rush hour; there is still a lot to be said for anonymity! Having said that, wearing a suit and looking like a merchant banker in London might not be a healthy thing soon...
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Now that the Armed Forces cannot discriminate against sexual orientation, can fat RAF blokes (who aren't wooftas) elect to wear the WRAF pregnancy smock for reasons of personal comfort? 
What's it coming to ... they'll be modifying flying suits with a rear zip next!
The Royal Air Farce never ceases to amaze me
What's it coming to ... they'll be modifying flying suits with a rear zip next!
The Royal Air Farce never ceases to amaze me
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Written by FJ2ME;
He's right, you're wrong. Well, thats how it works in the rest of the military.
Yep, you're quite correct, Helpful Stacker. The proper military types are popping ribs yet again at how delicate the crabs are.
No wonder you lot are a joke.
BUT, and its a big but, what if your station commander's interpretation differs from yours....?
Yep, you're quite correct, Helpful Stacker. The proper military types are popping ribs yet again at how delicate the crabs are.
No wonder you lot are a joke.
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UAV's my ar$e
Wind it Grimweasel! You know you love us. Mabey if you started wearing your old flying suit again and spent a little less time on the golf course, you'd have a clearer view on the subject.
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