Blues if not flying
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Flying Suits not Airforcy enough for the Gen Public...
I know about the wearing of blues to make aircrew look more part of the Airforce and not to be confused by the general public as 'in the Army' make perfect sense, but is it true that RAF Regt will only be allowed to wear CS95 on exercise or operations and have to wear blues from now on?
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Blues for aircrew
A few years back I am sure during an exciting night shift I read something that the Regs did say aircrew must wear blues when not on flying duties, so really you have got away with it for a while. I remember going to Sqn briefs where 2 planes serviceable and 40 aircrew in flying suits thinking and what you flying today? Techies at most units have to get changed out of overalls to go to PSF/Clothing Stores. Anyway chill out still get flying pay when your doing none!!
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aww acs thats harsh!!!!
wanna see my log book?
Well obviously this will be across the board then if regt not allowed to wear CS95 unless they are doing soldier type things
So the Falcons will not be wearing there falcs polo shirts anymore then unless they are doing show stuff
PTI's will not be in the white T shirts unless they are in the gym
Sounds good to me
me thinks i will have to change my user name
wanna see my log book?
Well obviously this will be across the board then if regt not allowed to wear CS95 unless they are doing soldier type things
So the Falcons will not be wearing there falcs polo shirts anymore then unless they are doing show stuff
PTI's will not be in the white T shirts unless they are in the gym
Sounds good to me
me thinks i will have to change my user name
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"The RAF Regt may continue to wear CS 95 and specialist clothing may be worn by Firefighters, PTIs, Medical and Dental personnel; however, commanders are to direct the wearing of No 2 HD whenever it is appropriate to do so."
Presumably this stupidity also extends to the Islas Malvinas?
And will the AT/AAR peeps have to go back to the farce of getting changed in the back of the aeroplane before they can disembark in the USA?
Another rule invented bythe pointy head FJ-centric tits at the top - with no thoughts of the practical effects on others.
What a Loader of utter rubbish you guys have to put up with these days!
And will the AT/AAR peeps have to go back to the farce of getting changed in the back of the aeroplane before they can disembark in the USA?
Another rule invented bythe pointy head FJ-centric tits at the top - with no thoughts of the practical effects on others.
What a Loader of utter rubbish you guys have to put up with these days!
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And, as an aside, can anyone name any other air force in the world, anywhere, that makes its aircrew change uniforms like this?
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so should specialist clothing only be worn when employed in the specialist job!!!?
Bring back getting changed in to Blues when we get off the jet at a civvie airport whoo hoo
or just let us fly in blues again, solves the problem unless off to the sand
Bring back getting changed in to Blues when we get off the jet at a civvie airport whoo hoo
or just let us fly in blues again, solves the problem unless off to the sand
Champagne anyone...?
Funny 
Everything to do with my job is flying related. If I'm in work then I'm doing flying related stuff. If I'm not then I'm not in work.
Fiddling while Rome burns I fancy....
Everything to do with my job is flying related. If I'm in work then I'm doing flying related stuff. If I'm not then I'm not in work. Fiddling while Rome burns I fancy....
I really thought this was a joke thread.
I actually don't mind wearing my number 2's, infact sometimes it's actually quite nice to feel smart and part of a bigger service.
However the resultant embuggerance factor and petty triv/hassle this will bring to the average (happy??) stations routine should not be dismissed.
It has all been done before, and was eventually rejected because its not as practical.
What staggers me is that someone thinks its a good idea, someone else took the time and effort to discuss/approve/draft/implement.
The AFB need to get a f%*&ing grip.
We'll be flying on QNH again next.......oh hang on have you seen the latest TAPS?
I weep for the future.
I actually don't mind wearing my number 2's, infact sometimes it's actually quite nice to feel smart and part of a bigger service.
However the resultant embuggerance factor and petty triv/hassle this will bring to the average (happy??) stations routine should not be dismissed.
It has all been done before, and was eventually rejected because its not as practical.
What staggers me is that someone thinks its a good idea, someone else took the time and effort to discuss/approve/draft/implement.
The AFB need to get a f%*&ing grip.
We'll be flying on QNH again next.......oh hang on have you seen the latest TAPS?
I weep for the future.
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well said stop start!!!!!
Looking fwd to the main gate tomorrow!!! will we all have to get out and do a clothing check! maybe they should have a bocs terminal at the gate to log in to to prove if you are doing a flying related task
Hmmm so if I am in to complete my JPA claim for my last route is that flying related as its a claim linked to an FSI?
what a load of tosh
Kept me amused tonight though
Looking fwd to the main gate tomorrow!!! will we all have to get out and do a clothing check! maybe they should have a bocs terminal at the gate to log in to to prove if you are doing a flying related task
Hmmm so if I am in to complete my JPA claim for my last route is that flying related as its a claim linked to an FSI?
what a load of tosh
Kept me amused tonight though
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So, the lunatics really have taken over the assylum (sp?) then. What amazes me is that, at some point in the discussion (I hope there was one), one of their airships' underlings failed to highlight the triviality of this dictat, and the effect it would have on morale. On the one hand, we - sorry, you - are short of pilots, to the tune of £100k a pop to retain certain elements; at the same time you are quite happy to issue, frankly, unenforceable regulations for what purpose?
If you need the solution, I find that a pair of shorts and a glass of wine works very well when not on a 'flying related task'.
As for flying on QNH, welcome to the rest of the world! - well, they still use QFE in Russia I guess.
If you need the solution, I find that a pair of shorts and a glass of wine works very well when not on a 'flying related task'.
As for flying on QNH, welcome to the rest of the world! - well, they still use QFE in Russia I guess.
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...those who fail to study history are destined to repeat [their failures].
How true.
This was done at least twice in the last 25 years [memory is getting fuzzy]. It won't last, once it is realised that it is generally impractical.
Some prat at high level got a monk on... Acted without thinking it through. One more potential nail in the coffin of many on the brink of giving it all up.
How true.
This was done at least twice in the last 25 years [memory is getting fuzzy]. It won't last, once it is realised that it is generally impractical.
Some prat at high level got a monk on... Acted without thinking it through. One more potential nail in the coffin of many on the brink of giving it all up.
Below the Glidepath - not correcting
Wouldn't a better question be why, with all the other problems that Senior Officers could be fixing, they have instead decided to focus on a dress regulation issue normally dealt with at SNCO level in the other services.
Do they have too much time on their hands, or are questions such as defining the true role and future validity of JSF/Typhoon, procuring a replacement for the rapidly aging and already obselescent AT Fleet, or where future funding for the woefully under resourced SH fleet might be found, all a bit too tricky for them to answer?
Do they have too much time on their hands, or are questions such as defining the true role and future validity of JSF/Typhoon, procuring a replacement for the rapidly aging and already obselescent AT Fleet, or where future funding for the woefully under resourced SH fleet might be found, all a bit too tricky for them to answer?
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I'm obviously showing my age and the length of time since I left the mob, but since when did wearing greens/CS95 become uniform of the day? Even working on the line it was go to work in blues, change into denims whilst at work, then back into blues to go home. If you wanted to nip across to PSF or stores you had to go back into blues.
Looking at this thread it would almost sound as if everyone not flying was wearing CS95. Is this really the case?
Looking at this thread it would almost sound as if everyone not flying was wearing CS95. Is this really the case?
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As a "Brown Job", I cannot see the problem. If I am programmed to fly tomorrow I will rock up in a Flying suit, if not i will wear CS95. Now if I am required to fly unexpectedly I go to my locker and put on my flying clothing (5 mins)
Now if you were not flying and could not be arsed to iron any kit and polish some shoes, and would rather instead pull on a growbag....then that is gash!.
I recognise the need for aircrew to be prepared for work, however I personally think there is a large portion of idleness/aircrew elitism at work here.
My thoughts only!
Now if you were not flying and could not be arsed to iron any kit and polish some shoes, and would rather instead pull on a growbag....then that is gash!.
I recognise the need for aircrew to be prepared for work, however I personally think there is a large portion of idleness/aircrew elitism at work here.
My thoughts only!
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How can we possibly say the wearing of Blues helps us be recognised more by the general public. Surely, the 'flying suit' is what most people would associate with military aviators. Further, not banning the wearing of uniform in city centers would also help!
However, here is a question for all you pencil pushing blunties out there... "Why is everyone that doesn't fly, so against the aircrew wearing flying suits?"
However, here is a question for all you pencil pushing blunties out there... "Why is everyone that doesn't fly, so against the aircrew wearing flying suits?"
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I can foresee a few issues
1 I will now have to actually do some ironing and shoe polishing.
2 I will now always have to wear my jumper so that people can see my brevet and know whose cloak hem they should be touching to gain inspiration and healing.
3 What about summer shirt sleeve order? Do people not realise that I have an image to uphold? Maybe they will start issuing a nice metal brevet for shirts, like our colonial colleagues.
4 Picture this...
Warm summer day at a static display. Sat on the wing in your flying suit, shades on, smile on, bead of perspiration on your forehead and the zip on your growbag riskily undone to show a bit of chest profile. The f....y bowser jack knifes right next to your aircraft
or.....
Warm summer day at a static display. You're sat on the wing, oil stains on your blue trousers, sweating your knackers off with your shirt slightly unbuttoned to show your sweaty pits and gut. The bowser jack knifes next to some guys who look like they fly planes.
1 I will now have to actually do some ironing and shoe polishing.
2 I will now always have to wear my jumper so that people can see my brevet and know whose cloak hem they should be touching to gain inspiration and healing.
3 What about summer shirt sleeve order? Do people not realise that I have an image to uphold? Maybe they will start issuing a nice metal brevet for shirts, like our colonial colleagues.
4 Picture this...
Warm summer day at a static display. Sat on the wing in your flying suit, shades on, smile on, bead of perspiration on your forehead and the zip on your growbag riskily undone to show a bit of chest profile. The f....y bowser jack knifes right next to your aircraft
or.....
Warm summer day at a static display. You're sat on the wing, oil stains on your blue trousers, sweating your knackers off with your shirt slightly unbuttoned to show your sweaty pits and gut. The bowser jack knifes next to some guys who look like they fly planes.