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What is wrong with the notion of recieving a medal for going the extra mile?
Are we really going to start handing out gongs on the basis of text message voting?
Who knows, maybe it will increase awareness?
It even has the backing of the PoW!
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What is wrong with the notion of recieving a medal for going the extra mile?
Are we really going to start handing out gongs on the basis of text message voting?
Who knows, maybe it will increase awareness?
It even has the backing of the PoW!
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Originally Posted by mileandahalf
Sorry LBGR, I've missed your point (Don't come back at me like I'm having a go, I'm not).
Seems like a fair idea aimed at furthering public awareness of the UK military.
Seems like a fair idea aimed at furthering public awareness of the UK military.
Originally Posted by taxydual
For God's sake!
Two words come to mind.
1. Sun
2. Tacky
Two words come to mind.
1. Sun
2. Tacky
Surely those who vote will already have an understading of the forces anyway.
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All seems a bit self serving in favour of the Sun to me. Bet the winner gets photo'ed with 2 x bare breasted beauties with Sun backdrop. I bet it's more about selling papers than supporting the troops.
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I didn't see the point until the Adjutant posted, but...
Would our soldiers, sailors and airmen (let's leave the female members aside for the moment) prefer a medal or an award from the Sun that gives them the chance to cuddle up to a couple of half naked models
Hmm this may be more popular than I thought at first.
And returning to the ladies I am sure the Sun will dig out some chippendale look alikes
Would our soldiers, sailors and airmen (let's leave the female members aside for the moment) prefer a medal or an award from the Sun that gives them the chance to cuddle up to a couple of half naked models
Hmm this may be more popular than I thought at first.
And returning to the ladies I am sure the Sun will dig out some chippendale look alikes
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Thank you, Adj.
My point exactly. All about selling 'papers.
Hey, maybe we could all play Sun Bingo whilst filling in the nomination forms and, at the same time, enjoy a week's holiday for £5 at Pontins or Butlitz while quaffing our free 2 cans of lager free in this weeks Sun. (Just collect 5 tokens).
If The Sun wanted to do something serious, why not get Rupert M to put his hand in his pocket and sponsor Headley Court or something for the H for H Charity.
Sun Medals. Pish!!!
Tacky, just Tacky!.
My point exactly. All about selling 'papers.
Hey, maybe we could all play Sun Bingo whilst filling in the nomination forms and, at the same time, enjoy a week's holiday for £5 at Pontins or Butlitz while quaffing our free 2 cans of lager free in this weeks Sun. (Just collect 5 tokens).
If The Sun wanted to do something serious, why not get Rupert M to put his hand in his pocket and sponsor Headley Court or something for the H for H Charity.
Sun Medals. Pish!!!
Tacky, just Tacky!.
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It seems a bit pointless as we already have an operational honours list, using testimony from the chain of command and colleagues to secure an award for bravery.
The risk is that if a SUN recipient has not got a gong, pressure will then be brought to bear by same paper for MoD to award a formal one (SUN headline "MoD refuses to honour 'Our Boys'!")
I agree; it's just tacky and demeans the formal awards already issued to Beharry and other deserving GC MM etc recipients.
MoD should be avoiding this at all costs, not cosying up to Mr Murdoch and helping to line his pockets.
Sorry for the rant - long day!
The risk is that if a SUN recipient has not got a gong, pressure will then be brought to bear by same paper for MoD to award a formal one (SUN headline "MoD refuses to honour 'Our Boys'!")
I agree; it's just tacky and demeans the formal awards already issued to Beharry and other deserving GC MM etc recipients.
MoD should be avoiding this at all costs, not cosying up to Mr Murdoch and helping to line his pockets.
Sorry for the rant - long day!
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I agree, thats the Op list. Maybe a better petition would be 'the I screw the forces about' award - hotels that don't let forces in or shops that don't let uniform(forces) in?
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It would be a much better idea for the Current Bun to make awards to those at home who support the Armed Forces.
Highlight those businesses that offer support, discounts, charitible donations and the like.
Highlight those businesses that offer support, discounts, charitible donations and the like.
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...and here we have RAF Cpl Wayne Kerr who has just returned from battling the Taliban in Afghanistan and has been awarded the Sun Highest International Testimonial. He can't wait to wear it after 18 year-old stunner Kadie from Aylesbury has had her hands on it....
Good, eh? Just what's needed, I am sure.
Good, eh? Just what's needed, I am sure.
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I didn't see last year's programme (can't bring myself to use the word 'awards'), and I wasn't aware of this year's event, until I selected the channel by chance. To me, it was so appallingly cringe-making that it was turned off after just a few minutes. I hear the views that money was raised for Help the Heroes and that it raised public awareness, but do our Royals, CDS, SofS and all of those other luminaries who attended really need such a tacky platform to (a)support a cause which MoD itself should be responsible for, and (b)parade our fine troops in such a demeaning way? Streuth.
I didn't see last year's programme (can't bring myself to use the word 'awards'), and I wasn't aware of this year's event, until I selected the channel by chance. To me, it was so appallingly cringe-making that it was turned off after just a few minutes. I hear the views that money was raised for Help the Heroes and that it raised public awareness, but do our Royals, CDS, SofS and all of those other luminaries who attended really need such a tacky platform to (a)support a cause which MoD itself should be responsible for, and (b)parade our fine troops in such a demeaning way? Streuth.
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As someone stated on the much larger thread about this on Arrse, why get on your high horse about it?
The people who attended, all ranks, didn't get forced to attend. There were a lot of serving personnel there who didn't receive awards, thus they were there by choice and they seemd to enjoy it.
There is an awards system, but apart from exceptional stories of bravery, what do the public get to hear of them?
So it might not be the best way of doing it, but it does raise awareness and gives Joe Public a glimpse (however tacky) of what is going on around them. There were also awards for SAR in the UK etc.
Allegedly, support for the Armed Forces is at an all time high - how do you think that happened? It's the likes of the Sun and 'tacky' programmes on C5 that bring things into the living room of the public.
Yes, there are very valid arguments about how can you deem one unit to be 'the best unit' above others etc, but why not take the thing at face value? it raises awareness.
The Sun, a crap newspaper, has raised the profile of H4H immensely. You can't whinge about lack of public support (as some people have on here - and quite rightly), then whinge again about programmes that aim to raise awareness.
The Sun does it - if they didn't, who else would? It's far from perfect, but I bet donations to mil charities have benefitted hugely.
Point (a) is moot. We all agree the MOD should do it, or more specifically HMG, but they don't. So why sit around bemoaning the fact? If someone else is willing to take up the task then fair do's.
Point (b). I watched it, being ex forces. I knew about a few of the highlighted acts of bravery, but not all of them. I didn't see any of the rank and file looking demeaned either when receiving an award, or in the crowd.
The people who attended, all ranks, didn't get forced to attend. There were a lot of serving personnel there who didn't receive awards, thus they were there by choice and they seemd to enjoy it.
There is an awards system, but apart from exceptional stories of bravery, what do the public get to hear of them?
So it might not be the best way of doing it, but it does raise awareness and gives Joe Public a glimpse (however tacky) of what is going on around them. There were also awards for SAR in the UK etc.
Allegedly, support for the Armed Forces is at an all time high - how do you think that happened? It's the likes of the Sun and 'tacky' programmes on C5 that bring things into the living room of the public.
Yes, there are very valid arguments about how can you deem one unit to be 'the best unit' above others etc, but why not take the thing at face value? it raises awareness.
The Sun, a crap newspaper, has raised the profile of H4H immensely. You can't whinge about lack of public support (as some people have on here - and quite rightly), then whinge again about programmes that aim to raise awareness.
The Sun does it - if they didn't, who else would? It's far from perfect, but I bet donations to mil charities have benefitted hugely.
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...really need such a tacky platform to (a)support a cause which MoD itself should be responsible for, and (b)parade our fine troops in such a demeaning way
...really need such a tacky platform to (a)support a cause which MoD itself should be responsible for, and (b)parade our fine troops in such a demeaning way
Point (b). I watched it, being ex forces. I knew about a few of the highlighted acts of bravery, but not all of them. I didn't see any of the rank and file looking demeaned either when receiving an award, or in the crowd.
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I should've added - Ducks for Cover!! BTW, related opinions on ARSSE are, not surprisingly, equally divided, roughly.
I don't.
So why sit around bemoaning the fact?
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Don't want to get into the rights and wrongs of the Millies, but just a question.
Does anybody know why, when all other serving officers were wearing either No1s or No 5s, were HRHW & HRHH, as serving officers, wearing DJs. Not earth shattering I know but just wondered about the protocol.
Does anybody know why, when all other serving officers were wearing either No1s or No 5s, were HRHW & HRHH, as serving officers, wearing DJs. Not earth shattering I know but just wondered about the protocol.
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So why sit around bemoaning the fact? I don't.
And you are correct, the other forum has a divided opinion. I think (purely supposition) that serving members are more likely to find it tacky etc than joe public - and on anonymous forums it is difficult to distinguish between the two.
In my mind as ex Forces, I think that anything that raises the awareness of members of the public who have either never served, or don't have any family links to the military is a good thing. If it takes a tacky (but top selling) newspaper to do that, then that's what it takes!!
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Possibly as it was not an official function, uniform was not mandatory?
Also, maybe the Royals might have thought that wearing uniform may have detracted from those serving personnel in the audience? Maybe it was a way of trying not to take the limelight? Just a guess, obviously
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Were the same people complaining after Major Packer got his award at SPOTY?
So the tv show wasn't to your taste, never thought of pressing the 'off' button?