The Sun Military Awards
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You can't have it both ways. Either you want public support and recognition or you don't. The Sun has the greatest circulation of any newspaper and thus any support it gives has to be of value.
I watched the whole thing with my family and all thought it was emotional and a good event. The vast majority of winners had already received a significant bravery award and it was good the hear their stories again.
On uniforms it was interesting. The Royal Princes were dressed exactly right, it was the likes of Lord West and Gen Daannatt I couldn't quite fathom out. LW, as a government Minister should have been in civvies, and Dannatt as Gov of Tower of London surely should have been in uniform?
But overall I would have thought the stars that attended would have found the soldiers, sailors and airmen they sat next to inspiring, and probably vice versa.
I watched the whole thing with my family and all thought it was emotional and a good event. The vast majority of winners had already received a significant bravery award and it was good the hear their stories again.
On uniforms it was interesting. The Royal Princes were dressed exactly right, it was the likes of Lord West and Gen Daannatt I couldn't quite fathom out. LW, as a government Minister should have been in civvies, and Dannatt as Gov of Tower of London surely should have been in uniform?
But overall I would have thought the stars that attended would have found the soldiers, sailors and airmen they sat next to inspiring, and probably vice versa.
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But overall I would have thought the stars that attended would have found the soldiers, sailors and airmen they sat next to inspiring, and probably vice versa.
The more the forces get the publicity they rightly deserve the better. Whingeing is a non starter. Feel proud of them. They are an amazing bunch of guys and gals who must be supported. They have to know that we all do.
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Whingeing is not something I'm normally associated with.
I once asked the then RAAF's CAF would he seriously consider a Russian option as his choice of F18/F111 replacement. He replied that he'd do a deal with the devil if it represented the best solution for his air force. In that loose context, I have to acknowledge that there's probably no such thing as bad publicity, and the Sun's initiative probably won't have done much harm in keeping the Forces' profile in the eyes and minds of the masses.
If that's what it takes, tackiness and all, then so be it. I withdraw - to the pub, where I will continue with HFH fundraising efforts.
Whingeing is not something I'm normally associated with.
I once asked the then RAAF's CAF would he seriously consider a Russian option as his choice of F18/F111 replacement. He replied that he'd do a deal with the devil if it represented the best solution for his air force. In that loose context, I have to acknowledge that there's probably no such thing as bad publicity, and the Sun's initiative probably won't have done much harm in keeping the Forces' profile in the eyes and minds of the masses.
If that's what it takes, tackiness and all, then so be it. I withdraw - to the pub, where I will continue with HFH fundraising efforts.
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I have to say that I found the whole thing very 'Council House'! The people who represented the celebrities were, in my opinion, from the bottom shelf. There is a well tested and well trusted system for recognising heroism and the MOD addresses the issues when thay are presented through the command chain and awards on merit.
However, this show does keep the British public aware and accordingly, love it or hate it (I fall into the latter category), let it be!
Although I do agree with Jinda, it is borrocks!
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However, this show does keep the British public aware and accordingly, love it or hate it (I fall into the latter category), let it be!
Although I do agree with Jinda, it is borrocks!
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'council house'
There are many fine upstanding citizens who live in council houses. You will find that a huge number (possibly the majority) of the 'common soldier' are from 'council house' backgrounds.
Does that make them any worse than you or I? In fact not worse than me, because my parents lived in a council house when I was born and I lived in one until I was about 11.
My parents were fortunate(?) enough in a Scottish Borders textile town to scrape together enough money to buy their own house - they then went on, through hard work and a bit of being in the right place at the right time, to progress in their careers and ended up with very nice houses. My council house background got me into the FAA as Officer Aircrew. It got me to a very well paid and responsible job where I am today, when I left the RN
If you're going to try to describe the way you felt about the 'Millys', at least don't be a snob about it. Some of our finest and bravest soldiers come from council houses.
In civvy street some of our most upstanding and hardworking citizens live in council houses because their wages as nurses, cleaners etc can't stretch to anything else.
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Well, I agree with the majority on here that it was bit tacky, but I have to say that it was good to see so many celeb's paying tribute to our armed forces, not only those that won one of these things, but all the boys and girls in general. It was good to have it 'in our faces' at such a time.
So well done to the Sun for bringing it into our living rooms.
For those who found it just too tacky and too cringing to watch, the OFF button is usually located on the front of the set (or there's the plug in the wall)
A very Merry Christmas to everyone of our service men and women who will not be with their family (again) this year and who continue to allow the rest of us sleep soundly in our beds at night. Thank you.
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So well done to the Sun for bringing it into our living rooms.
For those who found it just too tacky and too cringing to watch, the OFF button is usually located on the front of the set (or there's the plug in the wall)
A very Merry Christmas to everyone of our service men and women who will not be with their family (again) this year and who continue to allow the rest of us sleep soundly in our beds at night. Thank you.
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For those who found it just too tacky and too cringing to watch, the OFF button is usually located on the front of the set (or there's the plug in the wall)
Regardless. Seasons Greetings this day to everyone, and a Happy 'n Safe New Year - especially to all those on operations.
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It was just an expression often used in the military and no offence was intended or implied. If any taken, I offer my apologies.
Merry Christmas to one and all and, as Jindabyne said, especially to all those in harms way who have been less fortunate than I who has spent the day surrounded by my family.
Best Wishes to all PPRuNers.
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Merry Christmas to one and all and, as Jindabyne said, especially to all those in harms way who have been less fortunate than I who has spent the day surrounded by my family.
Best Wishes to all PPRuNers.
Foldie
Didn't see it all. I thought for once it was a good advert for the young men and women protecting us. Individuals were nominated for designated awards and each one focused on the team effort.
As mentioned earlier in the post no one was forced to attend and did so off they're own freewill.
Merry Christmas Guys and Girls. Stay Safe.
As mentioned earlier in the post no one was forced to attend and did so off they're own freewill.
Merry Christmas Guys and Girls. Stay Safe.
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Some of our finest and bravest soldiers come from council houses.
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Doubt it - there's a difference between receiving public recognition for ones deeds by way of an award that will never be seen outside the recipients house, and wearing medals on your uniform for passing basic training etc 
