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Suit, suit, suit! I always looked in amazement at the other applicants who would rock up in jeans and tshirt. You wouldn't wear that to any other job interview, so why is this different?
I wore a suit every step of the way also.
I wore a suit every step of the way also.
Arm, That is Pierre who goes down in flames?? Never heard it. 
Anyway Venin, bonjour from the real #1 country.
Am unsure of lateral recruiting from France - RAAF has in the past taken current aircrew from UK, US, Canada, NZ, Singapore and South Africa. Unsure of anywhere else.
These days you have to become an Oz citizen, but it depends on the current demand - does RAAF currently need pilots. I don't know.
Anyway Venin, bonjour from the real #1 country.
Am unsure of lateral recruiting from France - RAAF has in the past taken current aircrew from UK, US, Canada, NZ, Singapore and South Africa. Unsure of anywhere else.
These days you have to become an Oz citizen, but it depends on the current demand - does RAAF currently need pilots. I don't know.
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Can I transfer from an overseas country into the ADF?
The opportunity to request for transfer to the ADF from another Defence Force does exist, but applicants must satisfy normal immigration requirements. (Enquirer's should use the Contact a Recruiter form on this website).
FAQ | Defence Jobs
The opportunity to request for transfer to the ADF from another Defence Force does exist, but applicants must satisfy normal immigration requirements. (Enquirer's should use the Contact a Recruiter form on this website).
FAQ | Defence Jobs
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In these conditions, is there any chance that the RAAF gives me a place as a fighter pilot? I think I would have to take a new training in the RAAF, but is that possible ? What are the conditions for foreigners ? Would like to fly the Hornet ..
Thanks
Thanks
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Nearly 40 years since I had reason to address an 04 and above, and yet it was like nothing had changed. After all as a SGT I was expected to call those at Squadron Leader rank and above as Sir. Did not stop me have a good relationship with some and sound friendships with others. When after being out for 30 years I ran into the same people again, it seemed very natural and proper to call them Sir. What was very unusual to me, as a civilian making presentations to a group of senior officers, the situation was reversed and I did not find it strange.
I think in regard to your applications should be important, is that your actions show that you both understand the traditions of address and the requirements when addressing someone senior to one self. After all you are very low in the pecking order. As a QFI indicated to me, having just severly bawling out a would be co pilot, "they have to learn humility and then I can teach them, as long as they think at 250 hours they know it all, they are useless".
I am sure that my chances of being selected was increased on my interview board, when the correct process of addressing the people who were senior to me was used. I would suggest the same to you.
As a former military man, you should know the proceedure, and I for one was on the panel, I work mark you down for your lack of respect if you did not address the board correctly..
After all you are asking to be selected, and you be able to show that you could intergrate back into the service. If you were not an ex military man, it clearly shows that have taken the trouble to find out the correct proceedures.
Sometimes in being gentle and respectfull to others, you show a side of your character that can otherwise be missed.
Nothing nicer than to be on Parade, and to here some junior officer calling out his flights or squadrons status.
"ALL CORRECT SIR"
See it works all ways.
Wish you all the best, do not forget you have some very good competition.
Regards
Col
I think in regard to your applications should be important, is that your actions show that you both understand the traditions of address and the requirements when addressing someone senior to one self. After all you are very low in the pecking order. As a QFI indicated to me, having just severly bawling out a would be co pilot, "they have to learn humility and then I can teach them, as long as they think at 250 hours they know it all, they are useless".
I am sure that my chances of being selected was increased on my interview board, when the correct process of addressing the people who were senior to me was used. I would suggest the same to you.
As a former military man, you should know the proceedure, and I for one was on the panel, I work mark you down for your lack of respect if you did not address the board correctly..
After all you are asking to be selected, and you be able to show that you could intergrate back into the service. If you were not an ex military man, it clearly shows that have taken the trouble to find out the correct proceedures.
Sometimes in being gentle and respectfull to others, you show a side of your character that can otherwise be missed.
Nothing nicer than to be on Parade, and to here some junior officer calling out his flights or squadrons status.
"ALL CORRECT SIR"
See it works all ways.
Wish you all the best, do not forget you have some very good competition.
Regards
Col
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Theedmancometh,
As someone who is ex-military it should be second nature to call Senior Officers Sir? How else are you going to Address them?
If you are serious about Joining the club you are going to have to learn very quickly that the recruiting process is ALL about playing the game!
As someone who is ex-military it should be second nature to call Senior Officers Sir? How else are you going to Address them?
If you are serious about Joining the club you are going to have to learn very quickly that the recruiting process is ALL about playing the game!
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Medical Issue.
Hey,
Sorry about hijacking this thread but it seems the most know how in DFR is in this thread. I have applied to be a Navy Pilot and have progressed past Pilot Specific Testing. I have recently been diagnosed with arnold chari malformation type 1, informed DFR and provided a specialist report (neurosurgeon). Today I was told over the phone that I am class 4 for Aircrew and will receive this decision in writing. This is contradictory to my Neurosurgeon's professional opinion that the mild case of arnold chari would not affect any aircrew related job. When I talked to DFR in Parramatta when I was just diagnosed, no doctor knew of Arnold Chari Malformation and they looked it up in there books for hours. I am worried that DFR has just deemed it too complicated and decided to just call it class 4 out of laziness. The fact is that Civil Aviation Safety Authority deems Arnold Chari Malformation as a acceptable condition to fly with and you Can be Class 1 Medically Fit in Civil Aviation, I can not understand why DFR gets to ignore all the facts from professionals and accepted standards. Arnold Chari Affects roughly %5-15 of the population and of those people only %20 are ever diagnosed. It was only by chance that I was diagnosed and due to the fact I told DFR about it, I have been disadvantaged. They said I would receive information on how to appeal in the mail. If anyone has gone through the appeal process and could provide me with some tips on what to include in my plea, it would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ben
Sorry about hijacking this thread but it seems the most know how in DFR is in this thread. I have applied to be a Navy Pilot and have progressed past Pilot Specific Testing. I have recently been diagnosed with arnold chari malformation type 1, informed DFR and provided a specialist report (neurosurgeon). Today I was told over the phone that I am class 4 for Aircrew and will receive this decision in writing. This is contradictory to my Neurosurgeon's professional opinion that the mild case of arnold chari would not affect any aircrew related job. When I talked to DFR in Parramatta when I was just diagnosed, no doctor knew of Arnold Chari Malformation and they looked it up in there books for hours. I am worried that DFR has just deemed it too complicated and decided to just call it class 4 out of laziness. The fact is that Civil Aviation Safety Authority deems Arnold Chari Malformation as a acceptable condition to fly with and you Can be Class 1 Medically Fit in Civil Aviation, I can not understand why DFR gets to ignore all the facts from professionals and accepted standards. Arnold Chari Affects roughly %5-15 of the population and of those people only %20 are ever diagnosed. It was only by chance that I was diagnosed and due to the fact I told DFR about it, I have been disadvantaged. They said I would receive information on how to appeal in the mail. If anyone has gone through the appeal process and could provide me with some tips on what to include in my plea, it would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ben
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Phyk: Sorry, I don't have any experience at all with anything here, but if you have a skim-read through the thread, there are several posters who have gone through the appeal process, one of them being the thread's originator (from recollection). Perhaps if you Personal Message them, they may be of help? 
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Hi Phyk,
sounds like bad news. Unfortunately I do not think the quacks at the DFR are lazy and just because they have not come across your condition before does not mean that they are tossing it into the too hard basket. There are a number of ways to look at this and all end up being that the ADF do not have to take a chance on you. It basically boils down to why spend numerous dollars (read a large amount here) with someone that has a condition that may affect (disregard CASA they allow people with heart conditions etc to fly) them in the air or render them unfit in the future. How does your condition respond to high G and repeated high G manoeuvres? It is very similar to the entry standards, for eye sight, whereby you need to meet the initial criteria on entry but once in, one day later, be as blind as a bat.
Your brain spec lad may say it is all fine but what is his aero background?
By all means go through the appeal process but don't be surprised that even with the backing of your specialist the ADF still says no.
sounds like bad news. Unfortunately I do not think the quacks at the DFR are lazy and just because they have not come across your condition before does not mean that they are tossing it into the too hard basket. There are a number of ways to look at this and all end up being that the ADF do not have to take a chance on you. It basically boils down to why spend numerous dollars (read a large amount here) with someone that has a condition that may affect (disregard CASA they allow people with heart conditions etc to fly) them in the air or render them unfit in the future. How does your condition respond to high G and repeated high G manoeuvres? It is very similar to the entry standards, for eye sight, whereby you need to meet the initial criteria on entry but once in, one day later, be as blind as a bat.
Your brain spec lad may say it is all fine but what is his aero background?
By all means go through the appeal process but don't be surprised that even with the backing of your specialist the ADF still says no.
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Frankly they don't - my RAAF course mates from BFTS got their wings in Nov 08, those lads and the subsequent courses are all looking at a two year ground posting before they see a coversion. This is a common theme accros all three services.
I think they are still recruiting, however the ADF are VERY flush for pilots.
I think they are still recruiting, however the ADF are VERY flush for pilots.
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Physically my condition would not react with any amount of g's or pressure. I received a call from a high up doctor today who told me I was class 4 due to the Condition, yet they can't tell me for what reasons due to it being Classified.. My Specialist does not have a aeronautical background but it is accepted that a mild case of my condition will not affect me in anyway compared to someone without the condition. Pretty much I was told that "off the record" clearance to be aircrew would be unlikely which is a unfortunate. I will appeal and state that I don't have symptoms, done flying time, can work on a Fire-front (RFS) without any symptoms etc. Thats what the doctor said, so if anyone else has this issue ensure that your appeal includes facts including how bad symptoms are, what medication is taken (over the counter rarely is acceptable) and how often it affects you especially during arduous or prolonged physical effort. If anyone else has tips it would be great and thanks for the replies so far.
Cheers
Ben
Cheers
Ben
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From wings at the moment, you will wait at least 12-18 months currently for a conversion unless you go Fast Jet, in which case you will start the following Monday after grad. Unfortunatley there is no more IFS so it is a bit of a crappy deal if you get stuck flying Maritime or Transport.
