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RAAF Flight Screening Programme

Old 26th Feb 2017, 22:10
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Join Date: May 2005
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Hey everyone,
Long time reader, first time poster.
I was on the August FSP for last year and was placed in the top third for competitiveness. Everybody I went on course with has heard back and received an offer for Pilot except for me. The only difference from myself to everybody else, was that I also sat an ACO Board a week earlier. I received an offer for ACO starting June (which I am over the moon about), but I was wondering if anybody has had any experience with not hearing anything after attending FSP and receiving a recommendation?
ADF is running short of pilot candidates, but the situation for ACOs is even worse. They'll be hoping you take that offer, since you've shown an interest, and will probably hold off of on an offer for pilot.
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Old 1st Mar 2017, 06:56
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Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: South Australia
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Hi Guys,

First time posting. I am currently awaiting an offer for Flight Screening after passing my assessment day in November and finalising medical assessments in late January. I have just received an all clear letter for my medicals and was just wondering how much longer I can expect to be waiting for an offer?

Also I am attending the Avalon Airshow over the weekend and was wondering if anyone would like to meet up. Would be great to be able to discuss the rest of the enlistment process and make some mates prior to entry if I am successful!

Any info would be greatly appreciated,
Cheers.
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Old 1st Mar 2017, 20:43
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Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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Appeal process?

Hey guys,

I recently completed FSP in Tamworth and unfortunately I was not recommended. The worst part is that I received an officer recommendation but it was the flying that was the clincher in the end which means that I have to wait the three years to redo it. I ended up getting airsick on nearly all of my flights and it impacted my flying considerably. In my board the president told me that the airsickness was a 'training risk' and that PSA wouldn't be processing me any further.

I did take as much time as possible to chat to the students at BFTS about it and they said that a lot of people get airsick, and that BFTS runs a desensitisation program. Which then makes me wonder whether a few hours flying aerobatics might do the trick! I'm just wondering whether anyone has ever tried to appeal the three year waiting period or whether it's pretty set in stone (which seems to be the general consensus)? I figure that if I can go and spend some money on aero's in the next 12 months and show a substantial improvement, PSA might be amenable to waiving the three year period or considering a shorter period of time before I can reapply. After failing a YOU session when I was 16, to being told my eyesight wasn't good enough, to having [email protected] surgery, writing an appeal and finishing a degree, and then getting airsick (for the first time in my whole life) I'm not ready to give up... But three years is a pretty epic setback and I'm furious with myself

In the alternative the board did offer me a GSO (non-aviation) role, which I'm looking into. I imagine it would be pretty difficult to change corps though - does anyone have any experience doing so/know if anyone who has done so? Army aviation was a 5 in my preferences so this route (while not the path of least resistance) might be something to consider.

Any input would be greatly appreciated
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Old 8th Mar 2017, 14:14
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BFTS doesn't offer the desensitisation program, AVMED does. Generally speaking, you need to be able to demonstrate that you can get through FSP without it being debilitating. Some of my mates got crook on course, but after 2-3 trips it resolved itself.

I can't speak for Army, but I don't recommend joining the ADF in a role you don't have your heart set on. It becomes pretty tedious after a while if you don't love what you do.
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Old 14th Mar 2017, 02:19
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RachelJ.

If you don't ask the answer will always be no. Also remember with 5428 being implemented and a new selection process happening it might not be a three year wait.
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Old 14th Mar 2017, 10:40
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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G'day all,

Passed my additional testing and waiting on an assessment day (once DFR pulls their finger out...), planning what I'm going to say in the interviews and what examples of leadership I'm going to give. I'm 26 and have done the following:
-Cadet Sergeant with Air Force Cadets as a teenager
-Former Army reservist (just as a digger, only for a couple years before moving overseas and no leadership examples to show for it)
-Self employed for ~18 months
-PPL
-Undertaken informal training roles at various employers
-Lived in several countries
-Various others

Just wondering if those who have gone through assessment/OSB think this is going to be enough? I haven't done the traditional 'leadership' things of sports club captain/rotary etc for a long time and not what they expect for their officer candidates.

Also, based in Perth so if anyone wants to touch base to practice for their YOU testing/assessment day etc etc let me know, also know a couple serving RAAF/RAN pilots so can pass on what advice they've given me.
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 05:17
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NSW
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Hello all,

After a bit of trouble organising my availability with work and I have finally confirmed that I have a spot at Flight Screening for the course beginning on the 7th of May. I know it's a little way off yet but if anyone else has been placed on the same course please feel free to send me a PM so we can get in touch before we go. Cheers!
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 09:03
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Brisbane
Age: 32
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Hello all,

Just wondering if anyone had heard any news on current offers for any of the three services?

Stu.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 10:14
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Join Date: Feb 2017
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Originally Posted by StaffyDog View Post
Hello all,

After a bit of trouble organising my availability with work and I have finally confirmed that I have a spot at Flight Screening for the course beginning on the 7th of May. I know it's a little way off yet but if anyone else has been placed on the same course please feel free to send me a PM so we can get in touch before we go. Cheers!
Hey Staffydog,

Just wondering how long were you sitting in the pool before you got the call for slight screening ?

Cheers
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 22:46
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NSW
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Hey Seb,

From memory I completed my YOU session in July last year, my additional testing day in August and my Assessment Day in September. I was fortunate with all of my medical information and got things approved pretty quickly after my Assessment Day for the medical clearance. My file was sent to PSA at Tamworth in late September from what I understand.

Like all of us here, I was really keen to know where I sat in the pool of candidates so I called PSA in November to see how I was going. I was told that at that point that I was sitting roughly in the middle. This led to an offer to attend Flight Screening in March that I had to knock back because of work. This devastated and terrified me to think that I might have lost my only shot at it, but PSA were extremely understanding and accommodating and put me on the first course I was available for.

I'm a bit hesitant to give out the number for PSA myself as I don't know that it's the done thing, but your case manager at DFR might be happy to pass it on so you can give them a call and see where you stand. It's probably the best way to get an indication of how long you can expect to be waiting.

From your earlier posts about sitting height, your username and the fact that you attended the Avalon Air Show with DFR I'm pretty sure I shared a plane with you from Melbourne to Brisbane once the weekend was over. I'm the "old" guy from the mid-north coast of NSW. If you end up getting in touch with PSA let me know how you go. Maybe we'll end up on the same Flight Screening course. Good luck!
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Old 24th Mar 2017, 07:17
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Join Date: Mar 2017
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Hi everyone,

I received my dates for flight screening today and couldn't be happier. Anyone else attending Course on April 30th (201717)?

StaffyDog - See you in the overlap mate
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Old 24th Mar 2017, 08:20
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Originally Posted by Markdo View Post
This has been posted up before, and another member of this forum has formed a study group now sharing ideas and study material. Just a shout out for anyone else who is interested in joining for more details just shoot me an email.
Hi Markdo - is this study group still going?
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Old 25th Mar 2017, 07:08
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Join Date: Mar 2017
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Originally Posted by tiashivaun View Post
Hi Markdo - is this study group still going?
Good question! I'd be interested, I just recently passed the Defence Interview to change my preference from ADFA entry to DEO entry, so hopefully in the distribution pool before too long.

My enlistment officer said that after 3 months she'll contact PSA to determine my application's competitiveness, but from the sounds of it we can do that ourselves if we acquire the right phone number...
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Old 25th Mar 2017, 10:45
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Originally Posted by tiashivaun View Post
Hi Markdo - is this study group still going?
Hey tiashivaun,
That's great news I am on that flight screening too. If you and Richard would like to join the group email me my details are on my profile.
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Old 28th Mar 2017, 02:11
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Join Date: Mar 2017
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Hi guys,
Im going for additional testing in april and just wondering if anyone can tell me whats it like, the difficulty of the maths questions and any good study resources that i could use.
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Old 1st Apr 2017, 01:54
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Join Date: Apr 2017
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Questions

Hey guys. Great thread. I'm trying to work out the best route to enter RAAF. Trying to work out the major differences between DEO and going via ADFA. Any first had experience would be really appreciated. Ta.
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Old 2nd Apr 2017, 23:16
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Originally Posted by tiashivaun View Post
Hi everyone,

I received my dates for flight screening today and couldn't be happier. Anyone else attending Course on April 30th (201717)?

StaffyDog - See you in the overlap mate
Hey Tia! I tried to send you an email in response to yours but the forum says you have elected not to receive them so I haven't been able to reply - feel free to shoot me an email with a return email address in it
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Old 5th Apr 2017, 03:02
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: moranbah
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Hi Everyone,

I attended my YOU session 2 days ago and managed to get a full JOR. My hope had been to put down Pilot and 2 engineering positions ( as i graduate at the end of the year ) for my preferences in the Air Force but in regards to my Pilot Preference the Career Advisor ( He is a RAAF Technician ) Wouldn't put down Pilot for me since I am turning 28 this year which is just past the 27.5 recommended cut off for DEO Pilot.

So i guess my question is , is it still possible for me to try and pursue Pilot in the Air Force despite my age ? I understand that the chance of ever flying a Super Hornet would be almost 0 due to my age but I am not a All or nothing Figher Pilot minded person I would like most people love to fly the Wedgetail or the Poseidon ect.

He said for me to Preference Army Pilot instead since they accept people up to 35 but i left a spot empty in case i have a chance to get the Air Force Pilot added to the list.

Thank you for any advice anyone might offer.
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Old 7th Apr 2017, 05:20
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I56.

Suggest you ask your Career Advisor to go over the RAAF requirements.

The ADF is not age discriminatory. There is no such thing as an age cut off. What is required is that you can serve out your IMPS.
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Old 8th Apr 2017, 04:43
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Wouldn't put down Pilot for me since I am turning 28 this year which is just past the 27.5 recommended cut off for DEO Pilot.
As finestkind alluded to, this is not correct. At the very least, this Adviser already suggested it was only a recommended cut off.
Perhaps tactfully request another Career Adviser...
Don't rule yourself out for flying a Super Hornet, either. You'll be the only barrier to doing that if you get a foot in the door!
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