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Old 17th Jan 2011, 05:06
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In todays RAAF the C.P. would have whined to the unit equity officer, resulting in the good WOFF being reprimanded and the CO being counselled by the OC.
This sort of sh!t is almost encouraged in todays ADF.
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Old 17th Jan 2011, 07:18
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Caiety, VNE

Thank you for your responses. I just dint have the chance to make an early reply. I had not considered gliding, so I am greatful for the suggestion. A little research showed a much more reasonable expenditure to get some air time, through gliders. I am planning to do this sometime next month. Any suggestions on good gliding schools in and around Melbourne, from those who have tried it before is greatly appreciated.

Its good to know that the PSA takes time to send those confirmation letters out. Ill keep that in mind when my file would be sent off yet again in a couple of months if things go to plan.

Finestkind,

My file has been recalled from the PSA. I was thinking that with many actually having issues tracking down their files while it was at the PSA, the chance of them actually having a record of mine after it has been recalled struck to me as being very slim.

PM's most welcome, and Ill keep my progress updated here.

Cheers
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Old 20th Jan 2011, 11:44
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Havenít posted in a while so I thought Iíd comment on a recently posted rant

Just like anything in life, you have to be prepared to make sacrifices and jump through some pretty horrible hoops. Becoming a pilot in the ADF is no different and can be argued that the sacrifices are greater and the hoops much harder. And Iím only talking about the recruitment process... It gets harder once you are in.

The recruitment process isn't perfect. From recent experience on the inside of DFR I can tell you that there is scope for things to fall through the cracks despite a fairly good database system which includes a strong tracking tool for applicants. The problem ultimately is user error and in some extreme cases laziness. But as an applicant (and this goes for any job in the ADF) you have certain rights and privileges that unfortunately most of you are not aware of. If you feel you are being unfairly treated, your first point of call should be your "case manager", and then through the DFR chain until you reach the Senior Military recruitment officer. If after all that work you don't seem to get anywhere, then take your issues to your local MP and subsequently move up the chain to the Minister.

MINDEF generally does not like hearing stories from applicants being unfairly treated and will always come down hard on the recruitment team involved if there is any evidence of laziness or poor management. He has this power through the contract.

At this point I would like to emphasise that this is not useful if you've sat a test and had been denied a position. i.e. attending a YOU session and not making the grade for pilot. Unfortunately the testing process in DFR is fairly waterproof with a large backing in psychological theories.

I'd also like to emphasise a few points made previously along the leadership line. If you are the squeaky wheel, you will get the grease. It shows leadership and a commitment to the recruitment process. I won't say that subsequent training in the ADF is easier than going through DFR, but once you've made that hurdle, the psychological boost you receive makes a lot of other challenges in the immediate future, a lot easier to bear.

Don't give up, and don't lose hope! The rewards of an aviation career in the ADF far outweigh the relatively short amount of pain you could potentially experience in the recruitment process
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Old 24th Jan 2011, 01:32
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I have my pilot assessment day tomorrow.

In regards to the essay which is conducted, i have heard for example of topics such as

1. Why do you want to serve in the ADF as an officer?
2. What qualities do you think a good officer should have?
3. What personal qualities and experiences do you believe you feel make you a good officer entry candidate?

Would you be required to write on all or just a specific topic.

Thanks in advance to any help

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Old 24th Jan 2011, 04:46
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Current DFR Aircrew Psychometric Testing

Good day/evening to you all.

My enquiry relates to the current Defence Force Recruiting (DFR) Aircrew Psychometric Testing format.

When I was processed through the initial aircrew testing day, back in 2004 - DFR used the long standing 'paper' hard copy tests (e.g. instrument appreciation, a/c attitudes, mathematics, etc). Mention was made at the time, that DFR would eventually adopt the 'AUSBAT' format.

A civvie friend wants to apply for ACO and I am trying to assist him with prep-work for aircrew testing. As it has been sometime since I was processed through the 'system' - I was wondering if anyone can advise if DFR are still using the old paper testing format, or has 'AUSBAT' already been introduced ?

I have called DFR, where the civilian I spoke with was quite 'cagey' about the information she provided (which is fair enough). Though, I fear she thought my intentions were perhaps erring on the sinister side !! All above board from my end !!

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 24th Jan 2011, 10:30
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Lacho:

From memory it is just one topic but all three of the questions you posed can be summed up quite nicely in one essay. Just remember the good old days of essay writing in High school. Topic, Introduction, 3 good points and a conclusion.

Don't get too worried about the essay. Essentially they are assessing your ability to write down your thoughts in a coherant way using a high standard of english. The standard you should be at after finishing high school that is.
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 03:20
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Lacho:

How did your assessment day go?
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 04:45
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Thank you spacemantan on your help.

Ant1984 and others,

I had my pilot assessment day on Tuesday and was given some very strong recommendations from both the psych and the defence interviewer, an R2 recommendations in fact.

I was fortunate enough to also be offered a 'backstage' meeting with the commanding squadron leader at the DFRC due to the strong interview recommendations I received.

My advice, I am parroting what others have said before on the thread but just be yourself, prepare well and just let your personality shine, if they wanted monotone robots, they would buy them.

Donít forget to smile, it goes a long way. In addition to this shake their hand, good morning sir/ma'm, common courtesy goes a long way and shows officer potential maturity.

I have had a very streamlined recruitment process so far compared to some stories heard on this thread, but it is all about creating opportunities for yourself (i.e. attending ADFA if you are an ADFA applicant) and showing motivation to succeed.

Good luck to those vying for a spot on FSP and currently in the recruitment process.

Feel free to PM me if any questions.

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Old 27th Jan 2011, 06:03
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Ant:

He's probably still in the waiting room
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 09:44
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Bugga, it appears my reply was entirely too late... Oh well the jokes still there. The waiting times for Assessment Days are a bit of a joke
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 09:14
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Always remember at my Officer InterView Board in the 80"s when asked "as a junior pilot in the squadron what will you be doing when you're not flying."

Totally stumped for an answer all I said was "anything the senior pilots don't want to do." Quickly followed by a roar of laughter.

Didn't really understand until I was a pilot officer in my first squadron where every SLJ came my way - then all became clear.

Good luck to all trying out - it can be frustating but ultimately it's a ball of fun.
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Old 29th Jan 2011, 00:38
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Just back from flight screening

Advice: Enjoy yourself!!! and work hard.

It is an absolute blast and you will meet some great people.

Nothing can completely prepare you for the two weeks so go there work hard, and have fun.

By the way it is very hot in Tamworth around this time of year.
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Old 30th Jan 2011, 06:01
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FSP program

Would any contributors to this thread be aware of when the new 2011 FSP program will be uploaded to the ADF pilot Selection Agency Flight Screening Program schedule webpage on the RAAF website.

Thanks
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Old 1st Feb 2011, 11:14
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Old 1st Feb 2011, 20:33
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I did the exact same thing regarding rejecting a RAAF pilot offer at ADFA for this year. Couldn't sign away 15 years and say goodbye to the girlfriend, I just couldn't.
A good example of why the flight screening process works.
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Old 1st Feb 2011, 23:11
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I did the exact same thing regarding rejecting a RAAF pilot offer at ADFA for this year. Couldn't sign away 15 years and say goodbye to the girlfriend, I just couldn't.
The decision is made very easy when the girlfriend decides to head to Europe for a year literally a week before officer training commences!
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Old 2nd Feb 2011, 00:27
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The decision is made very easy when the girlfriend decides to head to Europe for a year literally a week before officer training commences!
And hopefully the decision was to kick the b!tch to the kerb!

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Old 2nd Feb 2011, 03:16
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possibly the best reply I have read on this page, ever.
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Old 2nd Feb 2011, 03:19
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Old 3rd Feb 2011, 10:31
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If she doesn't run on JP-5 she probably isn't worth it Tony
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