RAAF Flight Screening Programme

[Myk92]

Your advice on ASP (and OSB?)

Hi everyone.

I'm currently in the queue for ASP, been offered a spot in November but need to delay.

I've been searching for as much information as possible regarding the ASP, but the best I can find is to download the CBAT app and do decimal multiplication type speed tests.

My question is, Is there anything else I can practice with?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

[PP0595]

Hi all, been lurking here for a while.

I have my ASP coming up next month, and I was wondering what tips/tricks people have to work through the complex SDT questions? For example, “what speed covers 297 miles in 3 hours and 40 minutes?”

It seems that any time an odd number gets thrown in, I get thrown out.

Any help would be much appreciated, as well as if anyone could share some gauge on how complex the SDT will be?

Cheers.

[asuthe13]

Originally Posted by PP0595

Hi all, been lurking here for a while.

I have my ASP coming up next month, and I was wondering what tips/tricks people have to work through the complex SDT questions? For example, “what speed covers 297 miles in 3 hours and 40 minutes?”

It seems that any time an odd number gets thrown in, I get thrown out.

Any help would be much appreciated, as well as if anyone could share some gauge on how complex the SDT will be?

Cheers.

I used to look at these questions and wonder how anyone did it in their head, but its deceptively easy.
3 hours and 40 minutes is 3 and 2/3rds of an hour, which is 11/3 hours.
297/11 is 27. 27x3 is 81.
81mph

[arishap]

Hey Everyone

I'm a 19yr old Uni Student applying for a role as a Joint Battlefield Airspace Controller or Air Traffic Controller in the RAAF. I was wondering if anyone else has been through the process for this role or if any successful applicants could shed some light on their experience.

Thanks heaps!!

[fluroredbubbles]

For anyone who took the ADFA journey or have been accepted, (or really just whoever has anything to do with it) how hard is it to get in? How well do you need to perform and what should your ATAR be looking like to even consider the ADFA route?

[finestkind]

flbbbles or can I just call you b**bs

The ATAR is up to you in regards to the degree you wish to pursue. In saying that it's a competitive (nasty non PC correct word that is no longer used in recruiting for the ADF) process. Mate you should be able to work out that if your chasing a high 70's ATAR for an ARTS degree their are a lot in the same boat with only a limited number of spots available. So say you'r chasing a high 80's ATAR for an engineering degree and achieve this but all spots are filled and you than say I'll take an ARTS degree who do you think is going to get that spot, the 70's ATAR or the 80's?

In respect to how hard is it to get in. Nothing is hard if you want it but again it is a competitive process, limited spots against the number applying.

[flyboyjimjim]

Hey All,

First of all congratulations to anyone that has recently been accepted into the ADF for aircrew, your hard work has truly paid off and you deserve full credit!

I have a quick question. Unfortunately at my 2 ASP's I was knocked back for Air Force pilot. I fully believe I can reach the standard required as first time being so young (16) I did feel quite nervous and made many silly mistakes, which really brought my score down, and second time I did perform much better with a cooler head (being older at 18), however I genuinely feel as though with the appropriate practice and experience my third attempt will be even better. I ranked quite high in some of the domains and just need to try and improve one or two (mainly strategic task management).

In the mean time before I go back, and whilst I complete my degree (I've just completed the first year of a four year mech and aero engineering degree), I have considered joining the reserves in some capacity, to not only improve my officer potential and demonstrate military motivation, but also to just genuinely serve my country in some capacity before I am able to hopefully fully dedicate myself to the service in the role I have always dreamed of.

Would joining the reserves be feasible if I want to later serve as a pilot (or even mission if pilot is not an option third time round), and if so, what would be the best roles (officer or enlisted) to join as for a future potential pilot (regardless of if they're recruiting for them at this moment)? I was thinking the top ones in the air force would be Intelligence officer or Ops manager (both are offered as reserve roles), but I'm open to any suggestions from all three services. Finally, if I am fortunate to enter into the reserves as an officer, would I need to repeat officer training, as it appears to be identical to full time?

Thank you for reading all of that! Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also if anyone has tips for improving strategic task management, I'm more than happy to hear that as well!

[Grey_Man]

G'day jimjim,

I don't think reserve time would overly assist you in your application for Pilot. One big thing to take in to the recruitment centres though - apply for the job that you want and if they tell you they aren't recruiting for that position at the moment, tell them that is all you want.

They have targets to meet and are fulfilling a role of someone not much better than a car salesman. Don't trust what they say, if you encounter someone in those centres that cares about you, then you have found a very rare individual.

Also - most of them have no idea about the roles they are selling you.. no more of an idea than any random person who has a friend of a friend that does the role.

[PP0595]

Also, to add to this... by joining the reserves you no longer compete for a “Direct Entry” target, rather you compete for an “In Service” target. This can be just as much if not more competitive because the number of targets is considerably lower, and you’ll find that the level of competition can be arguably higher (considering that being in service you have a leg-up by the way of networking, information access and corporate knowledge).

[ND_98]

Hey all, I have been using the forms for the last year and used them to prepare for my ASP that I attended in early November this year. I received a recommendation for pilot and I was just wondering if anyone knows when the next round of OSB's will be?

[finestkind]

Hi ND,

They do have dates for OSB's but also will ramp up extra ones if they have not been able to get the numbers they want. I am guessing you would have been told about the "standing" of applicants with this being a fluctuating thing as applicants come in and depart. Basically you just have to wait.

[Jos G]

RAAF Pil​​​​​​​ot Application

Hey guys I had a question,

I wear Ortho K (Google of needed) contact lenses which I just wear at night and it corrects my vision back to 20/20. I only got these recently and am yet to make the DFR aware of these. My Optometrist says that its my choice if I want to tell them, but I don't want it to impact my chances.

Anyone in a similar situation or a suggestion?

[PP0595]

Originally Posted by Jos G

Hey guys I had a question,

I wear Ortho K (Google of needed) contact lenses which I just wear at night and it corrects my vision back to 20/20. I only got these recently and am yet to make the DFR aware of these. My Optometrist says that its my choice if I want to tell them, but I don't want it to impact my chances.

Anyone in a similar situation or a suggestion?

‘Integrity’ is one of our values and what you will find is that people stay true to that. If as part of your medical they ask for information referencing your eye sight or any enhancements, I wouldn’t be hiding anything. Not to say you need to run down to DFR at first light and let them know, but be smart and be fair. This is what you should and would expect in the aircrew environment.

Realistically, and maybe a hard truth to encounter - but if it is something that the AVMO consider to be a concern, fair chance it’s for good reason. Limitations that aren’t a factor are taken on board and managed appropriately, but if it is a limiting factor then it may ruin your chances - though it’s better than not having your mates back when you least expect it during operations.

[ND_98]

Hi again everyone,
Last month I successfully passed my RAAF OSB for pilot. Is there anyone else on this forum who is currently awaiting a letter of offer?
Also, I currently work full time and have not studied since i graduated high school in 2016. I undertook an extension mathematics bridging course last year, after i was told in 2017 that my mathematics was not competitive enough to send me to the old flight screening program when that used to run. Is there any other short courses or study that I could take on to make my application look better? I am considering starting a 3 year aviation based degree but not sure if it is worth taking on such a big commitment at this stage.
Thanks.

[GiBrMn]

Originally Posted by ND_98

Hi again everyone,
Last month I successfully passed my RAAF OSB for pilot. Is there anyone else on this forum who is currently awaiting a letter of offer?
Also, I currently work full time and have not studied since i graduated high school in 2016. I undertook an extension mathematics bridging course last year, after i was told in 2017 that my mathematics was not competitive enough to send me to the old flight screening program when that used to run. Is there any other short courses or study that I could take on to make my application look better? I am considering starting a 3 year aviation based degree but not sure if it is worth taking on such a big commitment at this stage.
Thanks.

Hey Mate, I just got my letter of offer so hopefully your one is coming too. Don't stress to hard if you don't get one though as I did my OSB in September last year and only just now received it. If you wan't to do a degree then do one, but do it with the assumption you won't get in as a pilot and it will lead you down a career path you want. If you don't want a big commitment then I'd say your best bet is to do short term high reward things like volunteering or getting a job that has you leading a team of people.

[Malakor1]

Originally Posted by ND_98

Hi again everyone,
Last month I successfully passed my RAAF OSB for pilot. Is there anyone else on this forum who is currently awaiting a letter of offer?
Also, I currently work full time and have not studied since i graduated high school in 2016. I undertook an extension mathematics bridging course last year, after i was told in 2017 that my mathematics was not competitive enough to send me to the old flight screening program when that used to run. Is there any other short courses or study that I could take on to make my application look better? I am considering starting a 3 year aviation based degree but not sure if it is worth taking on such a big commitment at this stage.
Thanks.

Congratulations passing the OSB! This is a great time to join the RAAF if aviation is your goal, the civil world is going to take a while to recover from this hit.

As for uni courses, I query why you think you need to make yourself more attractive as a candidate? If you passed and received a recommendation then it's locked in for now. I'm not too familiar with the new screening process, do they tell you how well you performed?

I personally wouldn't worry about the degree for now, I think there's other avenues you can go down to make yourself look better if that's what you're after (community service, volunteer work etc). Besides, if you get in you can study on the government dollar if you still want to do a degree.

[ND_98]

Originally Posted by Malakor1

Congratulations passing the OSB! This is a great time to join the RAAF if aviation is your goal, the civil world is going to take a while to recover from this hit.

As for uni courses, I query why you think you need to make yourself more attractive as a candidate? If you passed and received a recommendation then it's locked in for now. I'm not too familiar with the new screening process, do they tell you how well you performed?

I personally wouldn't worry about the degree for now, I think there's other avenues you can go down to make yourself look better if that's what you're after (community service, volunteer work etc). Besides, if you get in you can study on the government dollar if you still want to do a degree.

Thanks alot mate! Definitely nice to know that I've done all I can until this point. In terms of the degree, it's more so just in case I have to re apply next year, to make my self look better if I don't get an offer this year. My ASP standing was competitive enough to progress me but my debriefer said it's on the lower end of candidates that pass through. Just trying to prepare anything I can so if I have to redo my ASP and OSB I have an even better chance.
As for volunteering work, I was doing quite a bit of volunteering stuff before all this COVID-19 situation, which is why a degree is really the only other thing I can think of to help better my application.

[Karan Johal]

ADF Pilot Specialist Testing

Hi Guys,

I have my pilot specialist testing coming up soon and just want to ask what you guys would recommend that I study besides the normal stuff like velocity, acceleration, and quick maths calculations. It's just that I've heard it a tough exam and only like 15% of people pass it.

Thanks.

[Kallin James]

Hey guys, I’m just wondering what my chances are of being a successful candidate for Raaf pilot. I’ve passed the you session and additional testing. Got to the psych interview, got through what seemed like most the questions and then got asked if I had a drivers license. I told them I recently lost it for 6 months for speeding. (I didn’t want to lie). They told me to come back for my assessment day 9 months later. I also didn’t finish year 12 but got to advance because I emailed my transcripts for a couple of cert 4s and a semester at uni for exercise science. Since then I haven’t been able to study or work because of my license and the isolation that’s going on and I’m not attending uni anymore.
Ive just been studying my ass off for months and hoping I ace the assessment and ASP in hope of standing a chance. Would that be enough or would my downfalls stop me from advancing.
Thanks for any reply.

[finestkind]

Kallin if you do not try than that will be a downfall.