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RAAF Flight Screening Program (Merged)

Old 17th Jul 2013, 07:29
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Thanks for the advice
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Old 18th Jul 2013, 05:34
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Could anybody advise me when, specifically, during FSP the fitness evaluation is undertaken? I'm referring to the push-ups, shuttle run and sit-ups.

Thanks

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Old 19th Jul 2013, 08:30
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VS,

The fitness test was done on the afternoon of the second last day for us.
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Old 19th Jul 2013, 10:02
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Had my YOU session the other day and all thankfully went well. Although I was confident I would be fine as I've been through it before, I was still nervous until the my CC passed on the positive news.

Hopefully I can get my Pilot Spec testing booked in soon as apparently case managers have an unprecedented workload at present. As such my CC advised that applicants should be pro-active in following up bookings to ensure they are made!

Time to sharpen up the mental maths I think!
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Old 19th Jul 2013, 11:28
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Originally Posted by frappe
VS,

The fitness test was done on the afternoon of the second last day for us.
Thanks mate, that puts me at ease a bit! Hopefully they do it the same way at mine!
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Old 19th Jul 2013, 14:34
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FSP ADFA

hey guys,

I have now passed all my testing with dfr and am waiting for a position on a flight screening course(adfa). My only chances are to go into the FSP course in september or november/december.

Do you know roughly when they let you when you've been granted a spot on a course..?

Cheers
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Old 19th Jul 2013, 18:13
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Hey Everyone,

I have only recently stumbled upon this thread and I have so far found it extremely useful, so thank you to all who have contributed so far.

I was hoping that I could receive some help/guidance pertaining to my current circumstances with my ADF application from those who have been through it already or have the necessary knowledge to help me out.

So a little bit about myself. Im nearly 17 and I am currently in Year 12 studying Year 12 courses and scoring relatively well so far, currently sitting on A's and B's with strong intentions to pick up my game and be sitting on comfortable straight A's

The courses I am studying are Maths 3C/D, English 3A/B, Chemistry 3A/B, Geography 3A/B and Psychology 3A/B

For those not familiar with the WA course terms, these are all the highest possible stages that can be completed.

I myself have been interested in some form of career within the ADF for as long as I can remember and more recently (the past 2 years) have decided to aim for a RAAF fast jet pilot, as many other contributors have.

I completed my YOU session 2 days ago (the 18th of July) and passed both the general aptitude testing and the extra testing for those wishing to apply for ADFA. I am now awaiting a phone call by the DFR nurse relating to my medical questionnaire and I also need to schedule a time for my aircrew testing.

So basically, I have a few questions that so far I have not managed to find the answers to, those being;

First off, I have not completed any physics course in either year 11 or 12 and I was wondering if this was going to have any significant impact upon my ability to complete any testing, especially the aircrew testing as it seems as though aspects of physics would naturally be found in the testing.

Secondly, my BMI is currently slightly below the required minimum for service in the ADF. To rectify this I am beginning a workout regime within the next month to hopefully beef myself up a little, and I was curious as to whether or not not meeting this benchmark would have any significant impact on my application.

Thirdly, I was told during my interview that the aircrew testing is about 4 hours long and maths intensive which shouldn't be too much of a problem, but that was all that they told me and I see above that people have given some answers that briefly go over certain aspects of the testing. I was hoping that someone would be able to give me an overview/summary of the aircrew testing, and if possible, give me their opinion on the day.

Finally, Im interested to know if there are any other applicants from Western Australia who are/have gone through the recruitment process and wanted to have a chat about their experiences and compare, so if so, feel free to send me a message or something.

Thats pretty much all I can think of for now, and in hindsight, this is a relatively big post but any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks
-Bucket
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Old 19th Jul 2013, 23:18
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Hi BucketOFish I am also from WA, and have recently successfully completed the application process, if you have any questions feel free to send me a message.

Personally I wouldn't worry too much about your BMI; you have time to increase it.

WRT your lack of Physics I would imagine it would be dependant on how well you perform on the Mathematics and associated aptitude tests.
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Old 22nd Jul 2013, 07:05
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Yeah its all on assessment day now with regard to interviews, medicals etc

Geoff
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Old 22nd Jul 2013, 14:49
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What sort of essay questions do they ask?
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 11:35
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GIA-90,

You'll get a call about a month before the start of that course if you've been offered a position.
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 08:50
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Hi. So I'm in year 9 and I have the choice to do aviation next year in school. I'd love to do it but I think I'm also going to join the cadets (if rowing doesn't clash). I'd love to learn aviation through both but when my older brother did the year 10 aviation (our schools do the same program and he did his two years ago so they wouldn't be different) I read his books and sheets and I already know basically everything but weather that you learn in year 10. I was wondering whether I should do aviation through the cadets and leave the school aviation and put more focus and time into like maths and science etc.

Thanks,
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 10:11
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OSB only

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone could help me with this question.

I attended flight screening a year ago and was recommended, but found out early this year after the last intake before my dossier expired that my score was not competitive. I was given some suggestions on what to do to make myself more competitive next time I apply, such as join Toastmasters and do some gliding both of which I have commenced. I went back over the last month to DFR to update my medical, aptitude, psychological and interview and have been recommended (again). My first preference is RAAF but would take any service, however have been informed that the RAAF are not interested and would want me to resit flight screening again in 2015 to be considered. However I might still have a shot at the ARA or Navy.

This doesnt make sense to me? Can anyone help?

Thanks,

FC
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 12:16
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Sounds unusual that they don't want you to re-apply especially when you got recommended. If you are happy to accept one of the other services I'd change your preference and then go for the Assessment Day/OSB again. Keep in mind the Navy to both BFTS and 2FTS so you'd still get your wings and have the opportunity to transfer if you did well enough, might be worth a shot. I'm not an expert but that sounds like a reasonable idea if your keen to fly.
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 12:34
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i thought you can't retake FSP, the actual flying. Once you get your score it sticks with you?

i would definitely apply for navy
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 13:31
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You can redo the flying component of flight screening after 3 years and the board component after 12 months. Apparently I got above average in the flying component but did poorly in the interview (rabbit in the head lights experience).

I read earlier in the thread that the RAAF if focused on fighter pilots so maybe I dont make the cut at the moment.

I would prefer RAAF as I like fixed wing and did AAFC for seven years, plus the options of more aircraft offer.

Might have to give the Navy a shot.
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Old 26th Jul 2013, 02:39
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i would go for navy. hopefully this story helps

Brody trains as fighter pilot | Bayside Bulletin

"Sub-Lieutenant Marris has been recruited as a fighter pilot with the Royal Australian Air Force after graduating as a navy pilot"

IF you're good enough in training, be damn sure the airforce will snatch you up
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Old 26th Jul 2013, 03:40
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Originally Posted by flying_chops
Hi,

Just wondering if anyone could help me with this question.

I attended flight screening a year ago and was recommended, but found out early this year after the last intake before my dossier expired that my score was not competitive. I was given some suggestions on what to do to make myself more competitive next time I apply, such as join Toastmasters and do some gliding both of which I have commenced. I went back over the last month to DFR to update my medical, aptitude, psychological and interview and have been recommended (again). My first preference is RAAF but would take any service, however have been informed that the RAAF are not interested and would want me to resit flight screening again in 2015 to be considered. However I might still have a shot at the ARA or Navy.

This doesnt make sense to me? Can anyone help?

Thanks,

FC
Recently the RAAF increased it's requirement from a flying score of 2.5/5.0 to 4.0/5.0, while ARA and RAN maintained their requirement of 2.5/5.0. According to a conversation I had with my enlistment coordinator, this change led to only 7 candidates being taken from a pool of 50 on the last intake (figures may be slightly off, my memory is a little hazy). From the sounds of it, your flying score was above the 2.5 (which was why you were recommended initially) but below the new RAAF requirement of 4.0, which excluded you. This is all just a guess but it would explain why the RAAF no longer consider you competitive but the ARA and RAN do. Hope this helps.
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Old 26th Jul 2013, 04:21
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is there any reason they jumped from 50% to 80%?

they want fighter pilots but it isn't the only role in the airforce. it seems like they'll be running into a shortage of pilots in a few years.


I spoke to one guy applying as well and apparently America is running short on Fighter pilots, if it keeps declining as it is, they would need around 400-500 fighter pilots in 10 years time. This is word of mouth however

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Old 26th Jul 2013, 04:36
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The way it was explained to me was that there is a shortage of fast jet pilots and a surplus of pilots in every other role, and coupled with the recent budget cuts there's a need to be more efficient in recruiting practices. I think they're aiming to recruit pilots capable of filling the fast jet role, and then having the less skilled of the lot fill roles on other aircraft as the need arises.

The way I look at it is that I wanted to fly fast jets anyway, so I'll have to meet this standard at some point or another. It just means that there's no safety net if I don't meet the required standard at FSP.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I wouldn't know which aircraft require more 'skill' to fly, this is just the impression I got from my conversations.

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