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RAAF Flight Screening Programme

Old 24th Jul 2013, 11:35
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GIA-90,

You'll get a call about a month before the start of that course if you've been offered a position.
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 08:50
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Hi. So I'm in year 9 and I have the choice to do aviation next year in school. I'd love to do it but I think I'm also going to join the cadets (if rowing doesn't clash). I'd love to learn aviation through both but when my older brother did the year 10 aviation (our schools do the same program and he did his two years ago so they wouldn't be different) I read his books and sheets and I already know basically everything but weather that you learn in year 10. I was wondering whether I should do aviation through the cadets and leave the school aviation and put more focus and time into like maths and science etc.

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Old 25th Jul 2013, 10:11
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OSB only

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone could help me with this question.

I attended flight screening a year ago and was recommended, but found out early this year after the last intake before my dossier expired that my score was not competitive. I was given some suggestions on what to do to make myself more competitive next time I apply, such as join Toastmasters and do some gliding both of which I have commenced. I went back over the last month to DFR to update my medical, aptitude, psychological and interview and have been recommended (again). My first preference is RAAF but would take any service, however have been informed that the RAAF are not interested and would want me to resit flight screening again in 2015 to be considered. However I might still have a shot at the ARA or Navy.

This doesnt make sense to me? Can anyone help?

Thanks,

FC
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 12:16
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Sounds unusual that they don't want you to re-apply especially when you got recommended. If you are happy to accept one of the other services I'd change your preference and then go for the Assessment Day/OSB again. Keep in mind the Navy to both BFTS and 2FTS so you'd still get your wings and have the opportunity to transfer if you did well enough, might be worth a shot. I'm not an expert but that sounds like a reasonable idea if your keen to fly.
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 12:34
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i thought you can't retake FSP, the actual flying. Once you get your score it sticks with you?

i would definitely apply for navy
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Old 25th Jul 2013, 13:31
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You can redo the flying component of flight screening after 3 years and the board component after 12 months. Apparently I got above average in the flying component but did poorly in the interview (rabbit in the head lights experience).

I read earlier in the thread that the RAAF if focused on fighter pilots so maybe I dont make the cut at the moment.

I would prefer RAAF as I like fixed wing and did AAFC for seven years, plus the options of more aircraft offer.

Might have to give the Navy a shot.
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Old 26th Jul 2013, 02:39
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i would go for navy. hopefully this story helps

Brody trains as fighter pilot | Bayside Bulletin

"Sub-Lieutenant Marris has been recruited as a fighter pilot with the Royal Australian Air Force after graduating as a navy pilot"

IF you're good enough in training, be damn sure the airforce will snatch you up
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Old 26th Jul 2013, 03:40
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Originally Posted by flying_chops
Hi,

Just wondering if anyone could help me with this question.

I attended flight screening a year ago and was recommended, but found out early this year after the last intake before my dossier expired that my score was not competitive. I was given some suggestions on what to do to make myself more competitive next time I apply, such as join Toastmasters and do some gliding both of which I have commenced. I went back over the last month to DFR to update my medical, aptitude, psychological and interview and have been recommended (again). My first preference is RAAF but would take any service, however have been informed that the RAAF are not interested and would want me to resit flight screening again in 2015 to be considered. However I might still have a shot at the ARA or Navy.

This doesnt make sense to me? Can anyone help?

Thanks,

FC
Recently the RAAF increased it's requirement from a flying score of 2.5/5.0 to 4.0/5.0, while ARA and RAN maintained their requirement of 2.5/5.0. According to a conversation I had with my enlistment coordinator, this change led to only 7 candidates being taken from a pool of 50 on the last intake (figures may be slightly off, my memory is a little hazy). From the sounds of it, your flying score was above the 2.5 (which was why you were recommended initially) but below the new RAAF requirement of 4.0, which excluded you. This is all just a guess but it would explain why the RAAF no longer consider you competitive but the ARA and RAN do. Hope this helps.
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Old 26th Jul 2013, 04:21
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is there any reason they jumped from 50% to 80%?

they want fighter pilots but it isn't the only role in the airforce. it seems like they'll be running into a shortage of pilots in a few years.


I spoke to one guy applying as well and apparently America is running short on Fighter pilots, if it keeps declining as it is, they would need around 400-500 fighter pilots in 10 years time. This is word of mouth however

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Old 26th Jul 2013, 04:36
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The way it was explained to me was that there is a shortage of fast jet pilots and a surplus of pilots in every other role, and coupled with the recent budget cuts there's a need to be more efficient in recruiting practices. I think they're aiming to recruit pilots capable of filling the fast jet role, and then having the less skilled of the lot fill roles on other aircraft as the need arises.

The way I look at it is that I wanted to fly fast jets anyway, so I'll have to meet this standard at some point or another. It just means that there's no safety net if I don't meet the required standard at FSP.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I wouldn't know which aircraft require more 'skill' to fly, this is just the impression I got from my conversations.

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Old 26th Jul 2013, 14:52
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Give it time and I'm sure they'll have an overall shortage of Pilots

Amazing to think this thread was started almost 12 years ago and still going strong. Must be some sort of record.

This thread is a Goldmine guys

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Old 27th Jul 2013, 05:54
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Be nice if they stopped moving the goals.

Guess they will have a lot of guys going for ARA and Navy pilot spots then.
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Spec testing

G'day all,

I have my pilot specific testing coming up in just over a week and I am starting to get a little nervous. I have read all the previous posts re what to expect but am finding it hard to direct my study in terms of the maths related questions. I have been going over basic algebra, indices, trig, fractions, decimals etc. Is this on the right track or should I be focussing on other stuff? I have also been practicing questions from the Arco Marines aptitude test guidebook as well as speed/dist/time and fuel calculations mentally.

Any guidance would be appreciated.

Many thanks,
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Old 28th Jul 2013, 10:29
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Assessment Day

Had my Assessment day on Friday for ADF Pilot (RAAF) and was recommend by both the psych and the DI who told me I was a strong candidate. I had a medical issue to clear up which I did yesterday and got my results back today which are all clear so will get them to DFR tomorrow and my file should be sent to PSA to be added to the pool for a position on Flight Screening Programme
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Old 28th Jul 2013, 10:54
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Your quite right f-chops, the goal posts are moving. As they have been since military aviation began. At the moment the focus is Fast Jets, but the other types need a trickle feed of capable applicants too.

Flight training is very reactive and generally has a significant lag time, typically on the order of years. The chicken bones are very hard to read.

What does this mean to you guys?
...nothing. You are needed by the system to apply, you are required to do your best and not to be swayed like a politician by the 'polls' of how many spots are required and where. If you are the right applicant, at the right time you will find yourself on Pilots Course, hopefully by the end with wings and a 79SQN posting. If you are not you will find yourself employed in an area that better suits your unique and individual skill sets.

The bottom line is have a go, give it your best, don't worry about second hand knowledge on RAAF numbers. By the time it reaches you it is lagging reality anyway. Let your recruiters and QFI's decide. All we ask for is your best. Good luck.

Rog.

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Old 28th Jul 2013, 11:25
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great to hear that neo! do you mind me asking what type of essay questions they had?

also do you do the medical/psych then interview? or is the med/psych on a different day
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Old 28th Jul 2013, 11:56
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Thanks mate

I'll PM you the Q's to avoid posting them on a public forum.

In regard to the day, it starts off with 3 short response questions and a short yes/no questionnaire then the Psych interview (they use the questions you answered at the start of the day) followed by the Defence Interview and then the medical. I was finished by 1300 but I know GE (general entry) guys are expected to be there all day as they have to do the physical

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Old 31st Jul 2013, 01:56
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Well i called my case manager today to book in for assessment day after a week from the aptitude testing, he said the doctor is still reviewing my medical. He said it should take about 2 weeks.

Did it take that long for you guys?
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Old 1st Aug 2013, 05:43
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Got my call up yesterday for the Assessment Day. 26th of August....heading back to the mixed feelings of excitement vs nervous.......
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Old 3rd Aug 2013, 12:03
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Thumbs down

Hey, has anybody received a spot for Flight screening in September from the PSA? I really do hope I haven't missed out for this year..
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