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Old 13th Jun 2008, 12:24
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Good on the guy for 'sticking it to the man.'

I'm unable to upload photos from work (shh, you ain't seen me, right?!), but may I refer the thread to Robin Olds as a wing commander in Vietnam. (Believe he also commanded an RAF squadron as well in the early 1950s).

FFP: the mandatory 'US PT gear' is roundly and deeply resented in the USAF. As is the PT itself...

Finally, while I can appreciate the humor and 'well done, chap' sentiments, would you be saying the same if were a US exchange pilot in one of your squadrons 'sticking it' to a flag officer?
 
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Strike Eagle vs GR4? Elephant raping a mouse is the analogy that comes to mind.
- EEK! Speaking as one of the (GR3) mice that waxed the elephantine backsides of the F15s in Deci ACM range in the early 80's, I recall the panicky 'trumpeting' call of the Mayday call as not one, but both of my quarry's elastics broke (in the vertical) causing me to swifly sidestep the falling beast. Finished up escorting the wounded animal home on one (relit)

They always did say elephants were scared of mice
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Facial hair

Never could understand anyone wishing to cultivate on their upper lip that which grows wild on their arse anyway!!

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Old 13th Jun 2008, 14:11
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Well, the maint is easier when it's on the lip.


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Old 13th Jun 2008, 14:28
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Finally, while I can appreciate the humor and 'well done, chap' sentiments, would you be saying the same if were a US exchange pilot in one of your squadrons 'sticking it' to a flag officer?
Most certainly, it's called one up for the mates! I suspect we could do with a lot more of it.
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Old 13th Jun 2008, 15:32
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Up until 1912, it was a contravention of KRs for the Army to shave its upper lip.
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Old 13th Jun 2008, 16:06
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FFP: the mandatory 'US PT gear' is roundly and deeply resented in the USAF. As is the PT itself...
A mate was once on exchange on the AV-8 with the USMC. When invited to participate in some distasteful jogging around the base with the rest of the jarheads making '1-2-3-4, 'nited States Mreenkaw' noises, he affected a pained expression, before commenting "Run? RUN? Oh dear me, no. You see, old chap, British officers don't run - it would panic the troops!".

He also told them that he was quite capable of waxing their backsides at ACM without the need to spend hours lifting scrap iron in some gym - as he indeed proved on several occasions!
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Old 13th Jun 2008, 16:36
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In fairness though, I think it wasn't so much the moustache as the unusual items of uniform that got him in trouble

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Old 13th Jun 2008, 21:21
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Excellent work from Chris, made me chuckle. Hope the safety head has recovered.
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Old 13th Jun 2008, 23:01
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I gather the Safety Head was able to appreciate the same joke about three times in a row due to his post-head-brake amnesia.

I'm sure he's recovered by now!
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 01:38
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Three times doesn't even begin to describe the evening of circular conversation we had the night of said kite/beach/head interface. What disturbs me is that the Daily Hate is quite sooooo far behind the world that it even drags a story from the RAF News months after he returned to the swamp.

Still the upside is that alot of beers are on you next weekend in Atlanta Ballsy. Clearly the Tactical Discussion Procedure Update members will bill him large.....
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 03:08
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A mate was once on exchange on the AV-8 with the USMC.
You sure have a lot of mates, all johnny on the spot with Yank stories.

Over here we call them tall tales.

I only knew one Brit exchange pilot. He was nice enough to park a F18 in the warning area off Kaneohe Bay. When the aviators went to the carrier he had to sit in the squadron all by his lonesome.
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 04:14
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I think I can corroborate that story. The chap was the archetypal British Officer and about as far away from the USMC image as you could possibly imagine. He completely confounded them with his laissez faire attitude, but he was one of the best pilots I've ever flown with and highly respected the other side of the Atlantic.

If it's the same person that is. If not, there was more than one of them!
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 06:28
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My code does not include lying, cheating or stealing, Westie? Yours??

Did you mean the AV-8 mate, Dan? Your description is spot-on and he certainly did perplex them with his True Brit attitude! I think he later became a QFI, but am not sure. His brother had been a well-known Lightning driver.

The character in question had also been one of the infamous '7 Hunter refresher' course students back in 1975 when I was doing the Gnat course. A 'Who's who' of future RAF fast jet 'characters', the PMC once tried to throw them off the OM lawn at Valley for being 'improperly dressed'.......

If Jindabyne is reading this, he will no doubt remember the lingering smell of stale beer in the crewroom whenever 7 Hunter came to work! One of their number (who sadly died in a GR3 crash in Germany some years later) recovered on minima on the first wave of the day, then overshot and went round for another circuit. When later questioned, he'd admitted that he wasn't feeling terribly bright after another Nasty Newcastle session, had barfed all over the instrument panel on the break and then had to clear diced carrots and tomatoes off the ASI before he could land..... RIP, Stoney.
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brickhistory. Absolutely, anyone 'sticking it to the man', so to speak, gets a round of applause from me. Your reaction supports the notion that some people in the US take some things too seriously... Which kind of proves Chris' point.
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 10:23
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D-IFF, read my post again.

To make it easy for you, the intent was/is: Can you 'get' as good as you give?

If so, ok.

You did read the part where I congratulated the hirsute Eagle driver?
 
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Nice one Chris, lets all grow one!

How I laughed when I saw this one on TV, and I recall the safety head incident, it was legendary at Valley.
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 11:43
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D-IFF, read my post again.

To make it easy for you, the intent was/is: Can you 'get' as good as you give?

If so, ok.

You did read the part where I congratulated the hirsute Eagle driver?
Read it again - no change to my post required.

And yes, we can. But I'm wondering if you can, which, again, proves the point.
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 12:00
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D-IFF, does 'whatever' translate?
 
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Brick,

Absolutely. Does QED?
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