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Old 12th Oct 2007, 10:15
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Well said.

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Your Polish friend is incorrect. And you are an ass to boot.
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Wink Crossiwnd or was it downwind problems ?

Training Risky stated "Let's hope he has more skill at crosswind landings than his Dad!"


If I remember correctly was his Dad's problem more to do with downwind landings ? - combined with a lot of other factors like:-

lack of reverse thrust on the HS146
last minute .com arrival planning
late touchdown
Captain not using those well known words "I have control"

However if he has the usual "holding" post waiting for Flying training, he'll have finished in the RAF before he starts flying - oh no, how niaive of me, I forgot he has to qualify on Fxed wing up to Typhoon, do Rotary up to Griffin std and Truckers up to C 17 before he finishes ! - and still go clubbing with the eligible Miss Middleton at Bouji's.

I suppose if you give the boys a Golden Jubilee Medal apeice when they were not eligible under DCI, then it's all possible.

Which of the new Carriers will he command in the Navy?
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Originally Posted by EnigmAviation
Which of the new Carriers will he command in the Navy?
HMS Sinking Ship
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Originally Posted by Paper Planes
Doesn't Prince William wear glasses in private? I thought you have to be able to see 20/20 without distance correction to be a pilot in the RAF?

I guess the rules don't apply to him since he is royalty?
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Did he sit the aptitude tests at OASC? I very much doubt it.
Does it still need spelled out? He's not joining the RAF for an 18 year commission as a pilot; he's visiting it for a few months on a secondment, and will probably wind up doing some flying training. I doubt very much if you'll see him doing EFT/BFJT/AFT/TW/OCU in that amount of time!

Can the moaning wannabes please stop carping on about him getting for "free" something they're after. He's not! I'm sure if he's rubbish and unsafe, his QFI will refuse to send him solo
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Old 12th Oct 2007, 11:25
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"I suppose if you give the boys a Golden Jubilee Medal apeice when they were not eligible under DCI, then it's all possible."

But the Princes weren't issued them under a DCI - how could they be ? They weren't in the forces in 2002. Both of them would have received the medal in their capacity as members of the Royal Household (and that's Princes through to footmen). Policemen didn't receive their medals under a DCI, nor did the Fire Brigade, Ambulance Service, &c. - are they less important than yours, just because yours was issued under a DCI ?

As I said in my previous post, the medal was in the personal gift of the Sovereign. If you've got a problem with them wearing it then maybe you should take it up with Her. Or maybe you would prefer to just wind your neck in.

Incidentally, have you got one ? Proud of it are you ? "Yes son, I got this one for being in for five years."
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"However if he has the usual "holding" post waiting for Flying training, he'll have finished in the RAF before he starts flying - oh no, how niaive of me, I forgot he has to qualify on Fxed wing up to Typhoon, do Rotary up to Griffin std and Truckers up to C 17 before he finishes ! - and still go clubbing with the eligible Miss Middleton at Bouji's.

I suppose if you give the boys a Golden Jubilee Medal apeice when they were not eligible under DCI, then it's all possible."


You are a very sad case Enigma and you should seek professional help.
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Old 12th Oct 2007, 11:33
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I know people who've spent three and four times as long holding while in the flying training pipeline than HRH is spending in the RAF to get his
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Old 12th Oct 2007, 11:36
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Policemen didn't receive their medals under a DCI, nor did the Fire Brigade, Ambulance Service, &c.
No, but they still had to do the qualifying time in the service
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Your Polish friend is incorrect. And you are an ass to boot.
Thank you for your erudite reply. It's much appreciated.
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Old 12th Oct 2007, 11:45
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Prince William started his service on 21st June 1982.

Prince Henry started his service on 15th September 1984.

That more than covers the 5 years you're so worried about. There were 1,883 QGJM (paid for by the privvy purse) issued to members of the Royal Household, members of the Queen's family and her representatives. These were personally awarded by the Queen.
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Old 12th Oct 2007, 12:05
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Get a life Parabellum, it's you who needs the trick cyclist /shrink if you had your sense of humour surgically removed - we're all in the real world and do understand that Officer Windsor is just doing an extended "day trip" instead of doing lots of one day Royal visits.

But where would we be without some humour/cynicism/satire - even HRH Prince Charles liked the Goon show !!
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So the purveyor of vitriol, when challenged, produces the old excuse "but I was only joking! Where's your sense of humour?".
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Old 12th Oct 2007, 15:34
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Hello there,
I'm neither british (german to be honest) nor military, but I'm wondering why you guys are so turned up by the messages of the future king to get some flying instruction.
Don't you think there is the same or even more support to the offspring of other governmental position holders, and then you will not have a garantee of seeing them heading the country in the future, anywhere else.
So I honestly think this is one of the lesser budget problems the RAF has and for you guys really in the services probably a little understanding by the future CinC at very little expences.
Just my ten EuroCents, haha.
Take care all of you!
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Old 12th Oct 2007, 16:17
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So then guys, accepting that whether we like it or not, he's going to some elements of fg trg, what would we (as if we have a choice!) like him to do?

Also, given that his father and grandfather both were awarded their wings (one under slightly more expeditious circumstances than the other) will he be awarded his wings?

Will he wear them if awarded, when in RAF uniform?

What criteris should he make to have them awarded?
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Old 12th Oct 2007, 16:18
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Absolutely - after all , it will soon be his Train set so why not let him play with it now?
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Old 12th Oct 2007, 18:04
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I am more than happy for PW to get some experience of what life is like in the RAF today.

Alternatively I can live with PW being taught to fly with the RAF.

What I object to is the notion that PW being taught to fly by the RAF is being passed off (spun?) as him gathering experience of everyday life in the service. With just 4 months in total he will spend all of that doing flying training, and he will probably never get off the training base(s). Maybe the odd land away at an operational station so he can visit a FJ Sqn and talk to the chaps before flying back home for tea and medals?

How about he spends 4 months at a busy station, Lyneham or part of the SH world, seeing the everyday problems of generating/operating aircraft. Or will his view of the RAF be an aircraft available every day for training, lots of groundcrew around to service his 'kite', MT to run him everywhere, brand new flying gloves every trip/week, etc.....!
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Old 13th Oct 2007, 14:28
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Respect to our German mate.... forget the offspring of governmental figures getting some 'air time' in with the mil.... whaddabout a few of the the current 'front-bench' of the gumment (Sainted Gordon and his sidekick Des Browne) spending a couple of hours in the bowels of a Wokka in Helmand?...... Better still, perhaps they could be trained as 'Predator' pilots (airborne, naturally!!).
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Old 3rd Jan 2008, 11:52
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All to be revealed tomorrow
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Old 3rd Jan 2008, 12:26
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and here's me thinking he would go from a week at BUAS direct to Conningsby.....I note he is avoiding Valley in winter, is that 'cos the harbour is a little chilly for the swim prior to strapping in?
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