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B52 over America with 6 Nuclear War heads ** a Mistake **

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Old 5th Sep 2007, 21:14
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Sorry, buoy15 - that won't wash.

At the absolute very least, the world must expect that sane custodians of nukes - of whatever nationality - should know where every one is, and who precisely has responsibility for them, at any given moment.

Not really too much to ask, is it?
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Old 5th Sep 2007, 21:16
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LOL......
They couldn't find the WMDs in Iraq.
Now they can't even keep track of their own.
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B-52 bomber flown across the US loaded with nuclear-armed missiles.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7053898.stm

The US Air Force has relieved several officers of their commands after a B-52 bomber was mistakenly flown across the US loaded with nuclear-armed missiles......

Announcing the results of his six-week investigation, Gen Newton said there had been an "erosion of adherence to weapons-handing standards".

The Americans have a way of saying we screwed up big time,so well.
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 07:24
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Maj Gen Richard Newton said ground crews had failed to follow procedures

The crew flying the plane were unaware it was carrying nuclear warheads


Second quote made my morning...
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 07:33
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I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when someone realised they were live nucs........

"Err, Chief".

"Yes Bloggkowski"

"Does this radiation trefoil mean what I think it means".

"Bloggkowski"

"Yes Chief"

"It means we ain't gonna be hitting Hooters at 6 like we planned".....
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 08:55
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Such a shame should have dropped the lot on bush and the rest of the USA and done the world a big favour.
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 11:01
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They do seem to have cocked up twice, once as reported above and again by going public with the news.
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 11:30
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Ah, that'll be the "no man" guarding/access principle then!

But it's Minot, there's no one there.......................
 
Old 20th Oct 2007, 11:32
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Why have they gone public??
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 11:58
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See - over here it's called the Freedom of information Act, meaning you can't hide this stuff, over there it's called a D Notice and the Government buries it. That only means it's harder to be completely stupid while working for the Government here...

PS. If they disciplined 70 people, that means a lot more than that knew about it. That would take some burying.
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 12:05
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seemed to bury the Iraq war stuff! Bet a lot more than 70 to 100 people new about that!
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 12:15
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Ask the UK government about the time that they "inadvertently" launched the V force on a one-way mission against Moscow. Allegedly. Thankfully, they never got there before being diverted.
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 15:48
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And the purpose of nuclear armed B-52s is...............
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 15:57
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The same purpose as the nuclear capable Russian bombers that are seen more and more regularly over the North Sea.
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 16:38
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Could have been worse, they might have sent them UPS, then they would be in the sh!!











BANTER Mr UPS just banter
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 16:39
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But it's Minot, there's no one there.......................
God, if that's not the truth. Terrible place.
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glad rag

Could have been worse, they might have sent them UPS, then they would be in the sh!!
But at least they would have got where they were supposed to be going
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 17:13
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I have to ask - exactly why does this matter?

I'm told they're enormously inert even in the event of a crash (it's little more than a hazmat incident)

The security issue is made tiny simply by the fact that nobody could possibly have known they were there - because they weren't supposed to be.

OK, it's a pan-galactic organisational SNAFU, but as a purely practical matter - so what?

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Old 20th Oct 2007, 17:22
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What worries me is that someone in the bomb dump didn't even count them before going to bed. We had to do that for our thirty 9mm rounds for our Browning pistol!

What a "Carry On" (in the voices of Charles Hawtrey and Kenneth Williams):

"Ere, Sarge, I'm sure we had six more nuclear megadeath bombs on the shelf this morning...."

"Oh, stop it, stop it - ooh, you are such a worrier"!
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 17:27
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Phil,

As a USAF officer and former nuke warrior (in the ground vs aircrew however), on a basically practical matter, you are correct.

There are enormous safeguards designed in to prevent any sort of accidental discharge even in the event of a crash.

From a pragmatic standpoint, however, this is important because these ARE nukes. Not having 100% accountability 100% of the time leaves the possibility open to something being 'misplaced' and not being discovered until something bad happens at a time/place we weren't expecting.

Complacency happened since there's no real thought about the 'good ol' days' of the going 'nukler toe to toe with the Russkis (apologies to Slim Whitman in Dr. Strangelove)' and folks got sloppy.

That is just unacceptable dealing with anything that can go 'boom,' not to mention things that REALLY go boom.

In my opinion...........
 


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