British Legion Campaign
aha! that was very well put. i think i must agree with you!
Lovezzin, the Forces protect what they are told to protect, endex! I'm sure that your Father, Grandfather, Great Grandfather, Great Uncle and Sisters Boyfriend would concur. They didn't ask the question, you did, and I notice that you don't mention any military experience yourself. As to National Service, speaking on behalf of the Forces, no thank you very much! They have enough on their hands without having the added burden of a generation of surly social misfits dumped on them to "sort out". This problem began in the homes and the schools, and has to be solved there.
As today is the official launch of the Royal British Legion's Military Covenant Campaign, and the subject of this thread, may I suggest a visit to their campaign site at
http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/news...sset_id=517127
and
http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/inde...sset_id=516704
to find out how best to give them support in this urgent matter?
As today is the official launch of the Royal British Legion's Military Covenant Campaign, and the subject of this thread, may I suggest a visit to their campaign site at
http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/news...sset_id=517127
and
http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/inde...sset_id=516704
to find out how best to give them support in this urgent matter?
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Honour the Covenant - Royal British Legion's campaign
I urge all PPRuNe members to sign up to the Royal British Legion's 'Honour the Covenant' campaign. Below is an extract from the aims of the campaign:
"The Royal British Legion is calling on Government to honour its life-long duty of care to those making a unique commitment to their country.
We believe:
1. There should be a just compensation scheme which recognises the commitment and
sacrifices made when serving the Nation.
2. There should be a greater commitment to support the physical and mental health of Service people and their families.
3. There should be more support for bereaved Service families."
Please show your support on the website:
http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/inde...sset_id=516704
"The Royal British Legion is calling on Government to honour its life-long duty of care to those making a unique commitment to their country.
We believe:
1. There should be a just compensation scheme which recognises the commitment and
sacrifices made when serving the Nation.
2. There should be a greater commitment to support the physical and mental health of Service people and their families.
3. There should be more support for bereaved Service families."
Please show your support on the website:
http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/inde...sset_id=516704
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Signed, and posted on some other forums I frequent.
As for the other matter. Getting 'Joe Public' to understand why we do what we do is going to be an uphill (but worthwhile) struggle. It is not helped by most folk not really understanding that we only do as we are told. We don't really want to be in a war zone, but we go anyway because someone has to go.
There appears to be no generally accepted distinction any more between HM Forces (who do the job), and HM Government (who tell them what job to do!) We all seem to be tarred with the same brush. I suppose that's what happens when you have one party in government for so long.
As for the other matter. Getting 'Joe Public' to understand why we do what we do is going to be an uphill (but worthwhile) struggle. It is not helped by most folk not really understanding that we only do as we are told. We don't really want to be in a war zone, but we go anyway because someone has to go.
There appears to be no generally accepted distinction any more between HM Forces (who do the job), and HM Government (who tell them what job to do!) We all seem to be tarred with the same brush. I suppose that's what happens when you have one party in government for so long.
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Done. I don't think it is too much to expect fair treatment, housing and in the case of injuries sustained due to service, just compensation. Those who do get injured are not out to become millionaires at the Govt's expense, they want sufficient payment to enable them to pay for care/rehabilitation/housing work for wheelchair and accessibility etc. Furthermore, this needs to see them through the rest of their lives as many will not be able to work again!!! The public do I hope realise that we do not have the luxury of not turning up for work because we don't like where we are going or what we are doing. Many people have said to me that if I don't agree with it then I should have the courage of my convictions and just leave....... great, what a naive and puerile attitude. What about the family that I support and the mortgage I am paying off....? And the fact that I do still believe that UK mil is the most professional outfit in the world with the nost talented people doing the bidding of morons !!!!
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Just checked
Just checked the number who've signed up to this, stands at 1002 only. How many ex RAF, RAAF, RNZAF & CAF Air (RCAF) flying/working in commercial aviation are there? just get them all to sign up. 1002 signatories is a sad reflection!
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On a similar vein the Sunday Times has published a great article highlighting the poor care our people are receiving on return from nasty places.
Article at: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2558222.ece
Cheers,
Battler
Article at: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2558222.ece
Cheers,
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I really can't believe there are only just over 1000 signators to this petition, it's beyond belief. Very soon we're going to have to take a stand and say 'enough's enough' we just can't perform at this level of overstretch and we can't go on without public support. We are voting with our feet. I know guys don't want to leave the military, I'm one of them, but where did the duty of care to the men fighting overseas go? I mean really, where did it go? Who does look after the young guys stepping into our profession today? I know we are British and have a stiff upper lip and don't let things as trivial as a little war or two bother us but the public are just not on-side with the forces anymore. They are saying: 'I would support the troops but I don't agree with the war' and accept that to be an excuse for not supporting our troops - half of it is that when the guys get back from theatre they have to change into civvies before going home! Nobody sees them, nobody sees the uniforms returning. Very soon we will see the maimed, injured, young, otherwise very much versatile and healthy men that these conflicts have tried to break, try to walk tall amongst us in the high street, now redundant (but not forgotten by their brothers) and still so strong in spirit, but still so let down by the Ministry and the Government, and now the public. Will that wake the public up? Will it embarass the government into looking into the Legion's campaign? I doubt it. But for every man that is supported by helping them overcome returning to a country that would rather forget about them because their life and service to their country has become an inconvenience, I salute the Royal British Legion twice. They've taken an incredibly worthwhile stand and with them, as I know we all are, I wish them the best of luck in bringing this to the attention of the nation.
I had to say that, sorry to take up your time...(stops me ranting at the wife and I thank you guys for it!)
I had to say that, sorry to take up your time...(stops me ranting at the wife and I thank you guys for it!)
I really can't believe there are only just over 1000 signators to this petition,
To all concerned ppruners:
Have just signed this petition, the counter on the RBL website shows 9,200.
This petition does not appear to be on the Government website though, only the RBL's?
Incidentally, for those concerned at the lack of support for the military & ex-military please go to the following website: www.afpg.info (Armed Forces Pension Group) and show your support for pension equality for all ex-forces personnel by writing to your MP. Eventually, the MOD may just start getting the message!!
with fraternal greetings, ambi
Have just signed this petition, the counter on the RBL website shows 9,200.
This petition does not appear to be on the Government website though, only the RBL's?
Incidentally, for those concerned at the lack of support for the military & ex-military please go to the following website: www.afpg.info (Armed Forces Pension Group) and show your support for pension equality for all ex-forces personnel by writing to your MP. Eventually, the MOD may just start getting the message!!
with fraternal greetings, ambi
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Good News for once - East Yorkshire
Veterans get faster access to NHS
An East Yorkshire primary care trust has become the first to "fast-track" health treatment for all war veterans. Hull Teaching PCT has agreed a policy that includes veterans who are not war pensioners but who are thought to have a condition related to their service.
The NHS is currently only required to "fast track" the treatment of injuries for which a pension is received. The PCT said it had taken "a bold step to support brave military personnel who risk their lives for their country". GPs and other NHS trusts in Hull had been made aware of the new policy so that those who were eligible to benefit from it could do so "without delay", the PCT said.
PCT chief executive Christopher Long, a former infantry officer in the Army, stressed the importance of prompt healthcare for this particular patient group. "Some illnesses, particularly mental health problems, may not develop or show themselves until some time after a service man or woman has left the armed forces," said Mr Long.
"As many health professionals have little or no knowledge of life in the forces and encounter only very small numbers of patients with this type of background, there is a real risk that physical and mental health problems caused directly or indirectly by military service may be missed or misdiagnosed."
He said Hull Teaching PCT was committed to ensuring fast access to health services for everyone. "But we must also recognise the selflessness of those who have risked their health and indeed their lives for their country," he said.
"We feel it is particularly important to make sure younger veterans' conditions which are related to military service are also addressed and treatment offered as quickly as possible, in line with the service which war pensioners already receive."
Shaun Rusling, vice chairman of the National Gulf Veterans and Families Association (NGVFA) said his organisation hoped the example set by Hull might be followed elsewhere in the UK. "The NGVFA is delighted with Hull PCT and the new policy arrangements for fast track treatments for veterans which we believe will put Hull PCT in the forefront for treatment for war veterans in the country," he said. "And, similarly, we hope that this policy could be adopted nationally."
An East Yorkshire primary care trust has become the first to "fast-track" health treatment for all war veterans. Hull Teaching PCT has agreed a policy that includes veterans who are not war pensioners but who are thought to have a condition related to their service.
The NHS is currently only required to "fast track" the treatment of injuries for which a pension is received. The PCT said it had taken "a bold step to support brave military personnel who risk their lives for their country". GPs and other NHS trusts in Hull had been made aware of the new policy so that those who were eligible to benefit from it could do so "without delay", the PCT said.
PCT chief executive Christopher Long, a former infantry officer in the Army, stressed the importance of prompt healthcare for this particular patient group. "Some illnesses, particularly mental health problems, may not develop or show themselves until some time after a service man or woman has left the armed forces," said Mr Long.
"As many health professionals have little or no knowledge of life in the forces and encounter only very small numbers of patients with this type of background, there is a real risk that physical and mental health problems caused directly or indirectly by military service may be missed or misdiagnosed."
He said Hull Teaching PCT was committed to ensuring fast access to health services for everyone. "But we must also recognise the selflessness of those who have risked their health and indeed their lives for their country," he said.
"We feel it is particularly important to make sure younger veterans' conditions which are related to military service are also addressed and treatment offered as quickly as possible, in line with the service which war pensioners already receive."
Shaun Rusling, vice chairman of the National Gulf Veterans and Families Association (NGVFA) said his organisation hoped the example set by Hull might be followed elsewhere in the UK. "The NGVFA is delighted with Hull PCT and the new policy arrangements for fast track treatments for veterans which we believe will put Hull PCT in the forefront for treatment for war veterans in the country," he said. "And, similarly, we hope that this policy could be adopted nationally."
