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I think you'll find that the max payload was 20,000 lbs with 80,000 lbs max TOW however if the top of the cruise was to be ISA +10 the max TOW was reduced to 60,000 lbs giving max cruise range of 8 squillion miles. However in the case of max TOW being less than the min landing weight the coriolis effect would take over and reduce max cruise by the square root of TAS x OAT ... in the Northern hemisphere ... obviously
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It all went down the pan when StayBright badges and buttons were issued (Tone up) and MT went from blue to Pongo colour (Tone down). I blame the Leaping Heap (Bonajet in Yoof speak).
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since they started parking cars and caravans on the parade ground
When I were a lad, we had to get up and run round the parade ground 50 times before we were allowed to have breakfast. When we’d had breakfast we did 5 hours drill on the parade ground, including 2 hours of precision rifle drill with no orders. After that we had to do 6 hours of ground school with full written exams that lasted for 30 minutes every hour. If we passed all the exams with a pass mark of 98.4%, we were allowed to have some lunch. If not, we had to sit all the exams again.
After lunch we had to learn all of the checks for the Bleriot Monoplane, the Tiger Moth and the Chipmunk. If we got through the oral exams satisfactorily they let us sit in the Chipmunk for 25 minutes before we then ran 50 times round the parade ground again. If we got round the parade ground 50 times in less than 8 minutes, we could have some dinner. If we were too slow we had to keep running round until we DID get 50 laps done in less than 8 minutes. One lad I knew was running for 9 weeks once.
Once we had eaten, we spent the next 14 hours bulling the room and making bed packs before we then got to bed. If we were lucky we managed to stay asleep for 45 minutes or so before we were woken to start running round the parade ground again.
After 9 months of this we started flying. If we hadn’t gone solo in 2 hours and 30 minutes we were chopped. The whole flying part of the course lasted for 5 days and then we were sent off to Peshawar on 20 Sqn flying Westland Wapitis against the “they don’t like it up ‘em” brigade. If we managed to kill 4000 enemy troops in the first 2 years, we were allowed 2 days off to sleep and drink. Otherwise we just kept on going. Chum of mine was a lousy shot and he was there for 37 years non-stop.
And during all this time we had to pay the Air Ministry £3 - 14 shillings and threepence for food and accommodation costs, not that we had any real accommodation. I slept under the aircraft wing for 7 years.
And this lot whingers in here think they have it bad. BEagle will tell yer I'm right.
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Why can't I wear green rank tapes as the blue ones stand out on my CS95, DCC ?
Is an EAW a habit or a tradition?
Is an EAW a habit or a tradition?
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another interject from pongos about what a moaning bunch of uniformed civvies we are.
crab replies not me mate, I spent 9 million weeks in the sandpit last month on SH/AT and I think them lazy uk based crabs are a bunch of pooftahs
crab replies not me mate, I spent 9 million weeks in the sandpit last month on SH/AT and I think them lazy uk based crabs are a bunch of pooftahs
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Parade ground?? PARADE GROUND??? You namby-pamby spoilt load of brats probably don’t even know what a parade ground is!
When I were a lad, we had to get up and run round the parade ground 50 times before we were allowed to have breakfast. When we’d had breakfast we did 5 hours drill on the parade ground, including 2 hours of precision rifle drill with no orders. After that we had to do 6 hours of ground school with full written exams that lasted for 30 minutes every hour. If we passed all the exams with a pass mark of 98.4%, we were allowed to have some lunch. If not, we had to sit all the exams again.
After lunch we had to learn all of the checks for the Bleriot Monoplane, the Tiger Moth and the Chipmunk. If we got through the oral exams satisfactorily they let us sit in the Chipmunk for 25 minutes before we then ran 50 times round the parade ground again. If we got round the parade ground 50 times in less than 8 minutes, we could have some dinner. If we were too slow we had to keep running round until we DID get 50 laps done in less than 8 minutes. One lad I knew was running for 9 weeks once.
Once we had eaten, we spent the next 14 hours bulling the room and making bed packs before we then got to bed. If we were lucky we managed to stay asleep for 45 minutes or so before we were woken to start running round the parade ground again.
After 9 months of this we started flying. If we hadn’t gone solo in 2 hours and 30 minutes we were chopped. The whole flying part of the course lasted for 5 days and then we were went off to Peshawar on 20 Sqn flying Westland Wapitis against the “they don’t like it up ‘em” brigade. If we managed to kill 4000 enemy troops in the first 2 years, we were allowed 2 days off to sleep and drink. Otherwise we just kept on going. Chum of mine was a lousy shot and he was there for 37 years non-stop.
And during all this time we had to pay the Air Ministry £3 - 14 shillings and threepence for food and accommodation costs, not that we had any real accommodation. I slept under the aircraft wing for 7 years.
And this lot whingers in here think they have it bad. BEagle will tell yer I'm right.
When I were a lad, we had to get up and run round the parade ground 50 times before we were allowed to have breakfast. When we’d had breakfast we did 5 hours drill on the parade ground, including 2 hours of precision rifle drill with no orders. After that we had to do 6 hours of ground school with full written exams that lasted for 30 minutes every hour. If we passed all the exams with a pass mark of 98.4%, we were allowed to have some lunch. If not, we had to sit all the exams again.
After lunch we had to learn all of the checks for the Bleriot Monoplane, the Tiger Moth and the Chipmunk. If we got through the oral exams satisfactorily they let us sit in the Chipmunk for 25 minutes before we then ran 50 times round the parade ground again. If we got round the parade ground 50 times in less than 8 minutes, we could have some dinner. If we were too slow we had to keep running round until we DID get 50 laps done in less than 8 minutes. One lad I knew was running for 9 weeks once.
Once we had eaten, we spent the next 14 hours bulling the room and making bed packs before we then got to bed. If we were lucky we managed to stay asleep for 45 minutes or so before we were woken to start running round the parade ground again.
After 9 months of this we started flying. If we hadn’t gone solo in 2 hours and 30 minutes we were chopped. The whole flying part of the course lasted for 5 days and then we were went off to Peshawar on 20 Sqn flying Westland Wapitis against the “they don’t like it up ‘em” brigade. If we managed to kill 4000 enemy troops in the first 2 years, we were allowed 2 days off to sleep and drink. Otherwise we just kept on going. Chum of mine was a lousy shot and he was there for 37 years non-stop.
And during all this time we had to pay the Air Ministry £3 - 14 shillings and threepence for food and accommodation costs, not that we had any real accommodation. I slept under the aircraft wing for 7 years.
And this lot whingers in here think they have it bad. BEagle will tell yer I'm right.
Once we had eaten, we spent the next 14 hours bulling the room and making bed packs before we then got to bed. If we were lucky we managed to stay asleep for 45 minutes or so before we were woken to start running round the parade ground again.
We had to sleep under the bed so as not to disturb the bed block. While under the bed we had to polish the springs.
Next you will be telling us that your bed was in a room of 20 blokes. We were in one of 80. AND IT WASN'T a room it was a tent.
Namby pamby softee softee you young whipper snappers have no idea what it was like in the 20 minuters.
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Hello I am looking to get a couple of crowns done can anyone recommend a good dentist? The thing is I left 20 squillion years ago because I thought the Fleet Air arm was crap and now I realise that I am indeed like Tonkaengo a NATO potato and want to rejoin.
Has anybody got any idea where I can buy Oragophosphate there are a couple of people I would like to pour it over, the person responsible for making the fitness test twice a year is one.
Indradhanush? No idea.
Anybody know if I have been promoted? Do you have a link to the July promotion board? Even my Granddad who was in the R.A.F made it to SAC. I fear that I am the only one left who hasn't been promoted.
Gurkha Rifleman Pun was asked on his arrival in the UK how do you feel now? I would like to say "It doesn't get better than this but I am a little concerned that the RAF AT fleet is suffering and only able to produce 44 planes for tasking but at least the Navy are getting new carriers. The thing that has really annoyed me though is that I have travelled all the way from Nepal to find that the air show at Waddington was cancelled. No text message or letter, nothing, it is a disgrace, I don't care if your house has floated away I should have been told.
I am looking forward to getting a new SD hat if anybody out there knows a good supplier.
Lastly I would just like to say that I am looking forward to having a good discussion about the Vulcan. Did anybody out there fly it. I know that it should be in the Nostalgia forum but what the hell.
Has anybody got any idea where I can buy Oragophosphate there are a couple of people I would like to pour it over, the person responsible for making the fitness test twice a year is one.
Indradhanush? No idea.
Anybody know if I have been promoted? Do you have a link to the July promotion board? Even my Granddad who was in the R.A.F made it to SAC. I fear that I am the only one left who hasn't been promoted.
Gurkha Rifleman Pun was asked on his arrival in the UK how do you feel now? I would like to say "It doesn't get better than this but I am a little concerned that the RAF AT fleet is suffering and only able to produce 44 planes for tasking but at least the Navy are getting new carriers. The thing that has really annoyed me though is that I have travelled all the way from Nepal to find that the air show at Waddington was cancelled. No text message or letter, nothing, it is a disgrace, I don't care if your house has floated away I should have been told.
I am looking forward to getting a new SD hat if anybody out there knows a good supplier.
Lastly I would just like to say that I am looking forward to having a good discussion about the Vulcan. Did anybody out there fly it. I know that it should be in the Nostalgia forum but what the hell.
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"As a Yank"
and does one really have to salute someone who's uniform was obviously designed by cadillac in 1959?
dining in night ettiquette: with or without crusts and does one have to share the gifts from the crackers?
will my bum look big in this http://tinyurl.com/yssmn4 and does one have to remove it when collecting the vc for single handedly delivering a bucket of lemony jif to every major u.s. city in the valiant?
hi i'm red n, no salt and vinegar on the saveloy ta.
did you know, there are 72 spawn of icelandic maidens that have brown eyes in reykjavik?
and does one really have to salute someone who's uniform was obviously designed by cadillac in 1959?dining in night ettiquette: with or without crusts and does one have to share the gifts from the crackers?
will my bum look big in this http://tinyurl.com/yssmn4 and does one have to remove it when collecting the vc for single handedly delivering a bucket of lemony jif to every major u.s. city in the valiant?
hi i'm red n, no salt and vinegar on the saveloy ta.
did you know, there are 72 spawn of icelandic maidens that have brown eyes in reykjavik?
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No Scran?
Their cutting the aircrew rations, charging for food, the quarters rent is going up faster than the quarters are falling down now they expect us to pay to get to work and they expect us to wear hats when we are at work an dthey expect us to answer stupid questions about saluting warrant officers of other air forces armies navies.
then sum prat here will go on about spull chuckers the shift key and the stop key
Their cutting the aircrew rations, charging for food, the quarters rent is going up faster than the quarters are falling down now they expect us to pay to get to work and they expect us to wear hats when we are at work an dthey expect us to answer stupid questions about saluting warrant officers of other air forces armies navies.
then sum prat here will go on about spull chuckers the shift key and the stop key
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Hi, I'd like to start by quoting large tracts of the thread
When I were a lad, we had to get up and run round the parade ground 50 times before we were allowed to have breakfast. When we’d had breakfast we did 5 hours drill on the parade ground, including 2 hours of precision rifle drill with no orders. After that we had to do 6 hours of ground school with full written exams that lasted for 30 minutes every hour. If we passed all the exams with a pass mark of 98.4%, we were allowed to have some lunch. If not, we had to sit all the exams again.
After lunch we had to learn all of the checks for the Bleriot Monoplane, the Tiger Moth and the Chipmunk. If we got through the oral exams satisfactorily they let us sit in the Chipmunk for 25 minutes before we then ran 50 times round the parade ground again. If we got round the parade ground 50 times in less than 8 minutes, we could have some dinner. If we were too slow we had to keep running round until we DID get 50 laps done in less than 8 minutes. One lad I knew was running for 9 weeks once.
After 9 months of this we started flying. If we hadn’t gone solo in 2 hours and 30 minutes we were chopped. The whole flying part of the course lasted for 5 days and then we were went off to Peshawar on 20 Sqn flying Westland Wapitis against the “they don’t like it up ‘em” brigade. If we managed to kill 4000 enemy troops in the first 2 years, we were allowed 2 days off to sleep and drink. Otherwise we just kept on going. Chum of mine was a lousy shot and he was there for 37 years non-stop.
And during all this time we had to pay the Air Ministry £3 - 14 shillings and threepence for food and accommodation costs, not that we had any real accommodation. I slept under the aircraft wing for 7 years.
Next you will be telling us that your bed was in a room of 20 blokes. We were in one of 80. AND IT WASN'T a room it was a tent.
Namby pamby softee softee you young whipper snappers have no idea what it was like in the 20 minuters.
Quote:
since they started parking cars and caravans on the parade ground
Parade ground?? PARADE GROUND??? You namby-pamby spoilt load of brats probably don’t even know what a parade ground is!
When I were a lad, we had to get up and run round the parade ground 50 times before we were allowed to have breakfast. When we’d had breakfast we did 5 hours drill on the parade ground, including 2 hours of precision rifle drill with no orders. After that we had to do 6 hours of ground school with full written exams that lasted for 30 minutes every hour. If we passed all the exams with a pass mark of 98.4%, we were allowed to have some lunch. If not, we had to sit all the exams again.
After lunch we had to learn all of the checks for the Bleriot Monoplane, the Tiger Moth and the Chipmunk. If we got through the oral exams satisfactorily they let us sit in the Chipmunk for 25 minutes before we then ran 50 times round the parade ground again. If we got round the parade ground 50 times in less than 8 minutes, we could have some dinner. If we were too slow we had to keep running round until we DID get 50 laps done in less than 8 minutes. One lad I knew was running for 9 weeks once.
Once we had eaten, we spent the next 14 hours bulling the room and making bed packs before we then got to bed. If we were lucky we managed to stay asleep for 45 minutes or so before we were woken to start running round the parade ground again.
After 9 months of this we started flying. If we hadn’t gone solo in 2 hours and 30 minutes we were chopped. The whole flying part of the course lasted for 5 days and then we were went off to Peshawar on 20 Sqn flying Westland Wapitis against the “they don’t like it up ‘em” brigade. If we managed to kill 4000 enemy troops in the first 2 years, we were allowed 2 days off to sleep and drink. Otherwise we just kept on going. Chum of mine was a lousy shot and he was there for 37 years non-stop.
And during all this time we had to pay the Air Ministry £3 - 14 shillings and threepence for food and accommodation costs, not that we had any real accommodation. I slept under the aircraft wing for 7 years.
And this lot whingers in here think they have it bad. BEagle will tell yer I'm right.
Now I'd like to post an image although I don't know how
Back in a minute to edit this.
Ok, Back - anyone know how to post pictures here? Think I need a photo bucket or something?
Originally Posted by Wholigan View Post
Parade ground?? PARADE GROUND??? You namby-pamby spoilt load of brats probably don’t even know what a parade ground is!
Parade ground?? PARADE GROUND??? You namby-pamby spoilt load of brats probably don’t even know what a parade ground is!
After lunch we had to learn all of the checks for the Bleriot Monoplane, the Tiger Moth and the Chipmunk. If we got through the oral exams satisfactorily they let us sit in the Chipmunk for 25 minutes before we then ran 50 times round the parade ground again. If we got round the parade ground 50 times in less than 8 minutes, we could have some dinner. If we were too slow we had to keep running round until we DID get 50 laps done in less than 8 minutes. One lad I knew was running for 9 weeks once.
Once we had eaten, we spent the next 14 hours bulling the room and making bed packs before we then got to bed. If we were lucky we managed to stay asleep for 45 minutes or so before we were woken to start running round the parade ground again.
And during all this time we had to pay the Air Ministry £3 - 14 shillings and threepence for food and accommodation costs, not that we had any real accommodation. I slept under the aircraft wing for 7 years.
And this lot whingers in here think they have it bad. BEagle will tell yer I'm right.
You Wimp,
We had to sleep under the bed so as not to disturb the bed block. While under the bed we had to polish the springs.
You Wimp,
Once we had eaten, we spent the next 14 hours bulling the room and making bed packs before we then got to bed. If we were lucky we managed to stay asleep for 45 minutes or so before we were woken to start running round the parade ground again.
GOT TO BED
GOT TO BED
Namby pamby softee softee you young whipper snappers have no idea what it was like in the 20 minuters.
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since they started parking cars and caravans on the parade ground
Parade ground?? PARADE GROUND??? You namby-pamby spoilt load of brats probably don’t even know what a parade ground is!
When I were a lad, we had to get up and run round the parade ground 50 times before we were allowed to have breakfast. When we’d had breakfast we did 5 hours drill on the parade ground, including 2 hours of precision rifle drill with no orders. After that we had to do 6 hours of ground school with full written exams that lasted for 30 minutes every hour. If we passed all the exams with a pass mark of 98.4%, we were allowed to have some lunch. If not, we had to sit all the exams again.
After lunch we had to learn all of the checks for the Bleriot Monoplane, the Tiger Moth and the Chipmunk. If we got through the oral exams satisfactorily they let us sit in the Chipmunk for 25 minutes before we then ran 50 times round the parade ground again. If we got round the parade ground 50 times in less than 8 minutes, we could have some dinner. If we were too slow we had to keep running round until we DID get 50 laps done in less than 8 minutes. One lad I knew was running for 9 weeks once.
Once we had eaten, we spent the next 14 hours bulling the room and making bed packs before we then got to bed. If we were lucky we managed to stay asleep for 45 minutes or so before we were woken to start running round the parade ground again.
After 9 months of this we started flying. If we hadn’t gone solo in 2 hours and 30 minutes we were chopped. The whole flying part of the course lasted for 5 days and then we were went off to Peshawar on 20 Sqn flying Westland Wapitis against the “they don’t like it up ‘em” brigade. If we managed to kill 4000 enemy troops in the first 2 years, we were allowed 2 days off to sleep and drink. Otherwise we just kept on going. Chum of mine was a lousy shot and he was there for 37 years non-stop.
And during all this time we had to pay the Air Ministry £3 - 14 shillings and threepence for food and accommodation costs, not that we had any real accommodation. I slept under the aircraft wing for 7 years.
And this lot whingers in here think they have it bad. BEagle will tell yer I'm right.
Back in a minute to edit this.
Ok, Back - anyone know how to post pictures here? Think I need a photo bucket or something?
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Then there are the apostrophe police who are senior to mere stoppers.
The front of the JSP553 contains a statement from the SofS for Defence, it states that the MoD will regulate it's 
aircraft such that airworthiness is maintained to as standard which is at least as good as the civil world. Think about that statement and its implications very carefully.
aircraft such that airworthiness is maintained to as standard which is at least as good as the civil world. Think about that statement and its implications very carefully.
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Those in charge were really wrong to even think about buying C-195's. The A9900000000000000000 will be a much better buy [when we put pencil to paper and draw it], and will keep me in a job for years.