MRA 4, delayed again?
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From: Magnetogorsk
No problem with the aircraft. Same old story..?
There's a bit more to it than that. There are problems with the aircraft that are not news to anyone on the programme. They can be fixed – the question is how much will it cost and when will it be ready?
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Sorry, bit out of touch, is that the B737 MMA? If so seeing as you claim they have paid for it already perhaps they should be able to get a good discount when they have to order it. (I know it's only got two engines, but at least it works!)
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From: Long ago and far away ......
Well SOMEBODY has to pay for Waste of Space's pension pot, don't they? They look at the MoD as a cash cow - "Need some more money Sir? Delay the program, claim a problem with corrosion or some such stuff and they will eventually fork up. How much extra money do we need ... er, no ... how much money do we WANT?"
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From: The Sandpit except for tax purposes, then it's back in 40% Blighty
Originally Posted by NimAGE139
No problem with the aircraft. Same old story..... DPA and RAF can't afford it when they want it! Cough up and it'll arrive!
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From: Forres
That got the debate going.........
Try this.... " Working as an integral part of the team delivering effective air power, our aim is to give real advantage to the men and women of the Armed Forces. Trusted to deliver - always" BAE Mission Statement!
Fill yer boots!!
Try this.... " Working as an integral part of the team delivering effective air power, our aim is to give real advantage to the men and women of the Armed Forces. Trusted to deliver - always" BAE Mission Statement!
Fill yer boots!!
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From: Wellington, NZ
Lazer Hound,
I also understand that all the professional RAF aircrew inputs made in developing the mission system were all too difficult for inclusion in the build for the MRA4 but surprisingly have been incorporated in the P8 Mission System.
Looking forward to the P-3K2
I also understand that all the professional RAF aircrew inputs made in developing the mission system were all too difficult for inclusion in the build for the MRA4 but surprisingly have been incorporated in the P8 Mission System.
Looking forward to the P-3K2
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Tha' don't say that 't Bungling Baron has bungled yet again?
Well, ah'll go 't foot o' owerr sterrs.........sithee by 'eck as like.
Well, ah'll go 't foot o' owerr sterrs.........sithee by 'eck as like.
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From: Emptying the litter bin
It flew on the 30th
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From: Under a Log
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Aplogies for my ignorance, but having just completed a basic project management course recently, there were a few areas that seem to have been overlooked with the MRA4:
1. If a project is no longer sustainable i.e. overbudget and not delivering then the Project Manager should take responsibility and, if required, shut it down.
2. If the end user is not getting what he wants, then the project should be reviewed at a higher level. With a view to shutting it down.
3. If the project has failed before, for whatever reason..... Then it should be shut down!
The cash cow principle can't be sustained. Ultimately, someone should have the courage to stand up and make an informed decision on this. The MRA4, Bowman and numerous other recent projects highlight the conflict of interest with many parties involved.
Getting off my soap box now......
1. If a project is no longer sustainable i.e. overbudget and not delivering then the Project Manager should take responsibility and, if required, shut it down.
2. If the end user is not getting what he wants, then the project should be reviewed at a higher level. With a view to shutting it down.
3. If the project has failed before, for whatever reason..... Then it should be shut down!
The cash cow principle can't be sustained. Ultimately, someone should have the courage to stand up and make an informed decision on this. The MRA4, Bowman and numerous other recent projects highlight the conflict of interest with many parties involved.
Getting off my soap box now......