MRA 4, delayed again?
 

I heard an interesting rumour that the MRA4 has suffered major problems again. Does anybody know more? If this is the case what are the implications for the project?

Err, if it is delayed, the implications are that it will be late.......:ugh:

IF

That's a big if....... isn't it?

No problem with the aircraft. Same old story..... DPA and RAF can't afford it when they want it! Cough up and it'll arrive!

No problem with the aircraft. Same old story..?
 

There's a bit more to it than that. There are problems with the aircraft that are not news to anyone on the programme. They can be fixed – the question is how much will it cost and when will it be ready?
VC

It's been bought and paid for. Just doesn't work.
Only managed one sortie all week. 4 scrubs

Bag of S***e

Look on the Bright Side!
 

One consolation is that the US Navy won't have to pay Boeing much for the development of the mission system for the P8A - the RAF have already paid for most of it!

Sorry, bit out of touch, is that the B737 MMA? If so seeing as you claim they have paid for it already perhaps they should be able to get a good discount when they have to order it. (I know it's only got two engines, but at least it works!)

Jesus H F***ing Christ - they want even more money? :ouch:

Well SOMEBODY has to pay for Waste of Space's pension pot, don't they? They look at the MoD as a cash cow - "Need some more money Sir? Delay the program, claim a problem with corrosion or some such stuff and they will eventually fork up. How much extra money do we need ... er, no ... how much money do we WANT?"

Seeing as we will not require BWOS much longer with the current trend in how we are going with the military, why dont we just start sueing their *sses for the kit we have paid for?

"Seeing as we will not require BWOS much longer..."

How long for MRA4?
CVF anyone?

You mean pay for it a 3rd time over??? It's already late and way over budget!!:ugh: :ugh: :ugh:

That got the debate going.........

Try this.... " Working as an integral part of the team delivering effective air power, our aim is to give real advantage to the men and women of the Armed Forces. Trusted to deliver - always" BAE Mission Statement!

Fill yer boots!!

Lazer Hound,

I also understand that all the professional RAF aircrew inputs made in developing the mission system were all too difficult for inclusion in the build for the MRA4 but surprisingly have been incorporated in the P8 Mission System.

Looking forward to the P-3K2 :)

Tha' don't say that 't Bungling Baron has bungled yet again?

Well, ah'll go 't foot o' owerr sterrs.........sithee by 'eck as like.

It flew on the 30th
http://www.ukar.co.uk/cgi-bin/ukarbo...ST;f=9;t=29513

It flew on the 30th
http://www.ukar.co.uk/cgi-bin/ukarbo...ST;f=9;t=29513

It also come back early :ugh:

Not Long Here - I would not get too excited about the P3K2 seeing L3's performance with the Sentinal!

Aplogies for my ignorance, but having just completed a basic project management course recently, there were a few areas that seem to have been overlooked with the MRA4:

1. If a project is no longer sustainable i.e. overbudget and not delivering then the Project Manager should take responsibility and, if required, shut it down.

2. If the end user is not getting what he wants, then the project should be reviewed at a higher level. With a view to shutting it down.

3. If the project has failed before, for whatever reason..... Then it should be shut down!

The cash cow principle can't be sustained. Ultimately, someone should have the courage to stand up and make an informed decision on this. The MRA4, Bowman and numerous other recent projects highlight the conflict of interest with many parties involved.

Getting off my soap box now......