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Special thanks from Wiltshire Constabulary!!

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Old 20th Dec 2006, 13:40
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Special thanks from Wiltshire Constabulary!!

It was nice to see the Wiltshire C*ntstabulary, in conjunction with our very own Special PC demonstrate their extreme gratitude at the selfless efforts of all those at the Wiltshire Airbase during 2006 by setting up a 5 day speed camera/ breathalyser special task force to specifically monitor those using our main gate during the early morning rush last week.

More satisfying was to read the proud boast of our Special PC on the base website as the to fact that over 150 of the bases brave folk, many of whom will at some stage in 2006 been in real harms way and spent weeks away from their loved ones, were specifically targeted with over 30 prosecuted for speeding and over 60 cautioned but thankfully no one arrested for drink driving.

Despite the fact that Wiltshire, like every other county in the country will have more than it’s fair share of thieving gypsy pikey barstewards who simply do not tax or insure their vehicles, joy riders, dangerous drivers, Volvo drivers and other vehicular maniacs it’s great to see that brave and selfless folk of the Wiltshire Airbase, who have worked tirelessly in support of Herrick, Telic, Occulas provided much needed earthquake relief and countless other tasks, are actually more of threat to the safety of Wiltshire road users than those I previously mention.

As a final slap in the coupon it was especially pleasing to see that as the station finally closed this lunchtime for the festive period our friends from the Wiltshire C*ntstabulary were again outside the main gate pulling over service folk for random breath checks.

To all the good folk at Lyneham I sincerely wish you all a very merry xmas and a prosperous new year and please fly/work safe in 2007.

To all of Wiltshire’s C*ntstables I sincerely and from the heart of my bottom hope you all develop a rare skin disorder there in no possible cure for!
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Seconded, and may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the armpits of jobsworth traffic cops nation wide.
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Isn't it bloody sad that at this time of the year, when our thoughts and prayers are with our friends and colleagues in far flung places of the world, the local 'bill' in some areas feel it necessary to target our services?

As you rightly say, if you were some pickey, asylum seeker, or other ethnic minority type who didn't pay taxes, road fund licence, insurance blah, you wouldn't be bothered one jot, but unfortunately you are a law-abiding, tax paying 'soft target' for the plods, and easy prey, who won't tell them to
f*** right off.

Shame on you Wilts constabulary, and I concur with the remark about a nasty disease etc. and shame on the Stn Cdr for not getting on to the chief constable and pointing out a few things to him, and telling them to sod off.

A Very Merry Christmas to all at Wilts Police, I hope you have a really great holiday, wasting our taxes targetting our armed forces (they're the folk that keep YOU safe at night!)

Best wishes to all at Lyneham, Brize and Wilts in general (except those anus boys in Blue)

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Easy targets, they dont have the guts to go after Pikeys and people who will take them to court etc. Heroes every one!!
Spelling etc ****'d due to Xmas party..

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As far as I know the aim was not to specifically target Service personnel. It was a convenient and highly visible place to base a pretty sensible drink/drive and speeding campaign. It had been advertised to the station, so it shouldn't have been a surprise to any service personnel and if your ignorant enough to speed into work each day or have had a few too many the night before then take the punishment? The speed reduction measures in the village haven't been working and there's a busy school with a lot of kids around the village most of the day.

Get over it !!
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Too right, nothing gives you the right to flout the speed limit and/or drink and drive, not even those who've served in nasty places, and yes I have.....
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Well they have to meet their government set targets somehow, and after all we have to turn up for court and have to pay our fines, (we have something to lose if we dont), so they get good conviction and a fine paid.
Now if you is one of the stated pikeys, well you aint gonna turn up for court are you, and even if you do you aint gonna pay your fine, i mean, what you got to lose? (you probably dont have a lisence in the first place)
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You actually think the Stn Cmdr would tell off the Senior Plod....and have any expectation that would improve things one whit? How would the SC react to the Senior Plod telling him how to run things on his establishment?

The choice of location seems less than well thought out....as I am quite sure there are other locations that would be far more productive in the surrounding area.

However...one must recall..."numbers" is the name of the game for any governmental organization. If the project was well advertised....now who is to blame for getting nicked?

It does seem the Constabulary could focus upon the scofflaws.....or did they?
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cyclic gal & Co2Capt,
You are both missing the point. The questions are simple ones, they are:
1. Why set it up outside the base?
2. Why NOT set it up outside your local Pickey centre?

The answers are even simpler.......................
1. 'cos the Forces are easy, non retaliatory, soft targets
2. 'cos the likes of pickeys ARE!

Co2Capt, "As far as I know the aim was not to specifically target Service personnel" Well Sir, maybe you can explain just why the location was chosen then, if not to target the boys and girls from the base? Is there no other 'suitable' sites in Wiltshire other than outside the base?

Helringer and Dessert_flyer hit the nail on the head. They know that if they nick a serviceman or woman, a) they will go to court and b) they will pay their fine. For the police its a result and a tick in the stats box. On the other hand......

'Take on Pickeys Sir? oooh No, we can't do that you know Sir, why, we'd be shovelling the old smelly stuff up that hill, don't you know' Damned police, they make me sick. Shame on them.

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ps. I bet they all still come onto the base to use the mess for a cheap breakfast though, don't they??
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You now certainly have the views of Capt Sensible and the Whirly Bird. The Scuffs would never specifically target Servicemen, least of all the Air Force.

Wait till they are out with cameras to nick you for smoking in your cars!
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 15:38
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Well, they pulled me over, (with no offence having been committed) and I certainly hadn't heard of it happening..

Then again I had been away on a detachment for the preceeding x weeks..!
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Do the crime do the time....no matter what!!
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as the station finally closed this lunchtime for the festive period
Really? So are the Hercs using Brize or something?
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I'm well up for making sure that drunk drivers are off the roads, but this "deliberate targetting" happens at quite a few RAF bases around the country (and I'm guessing Navy and Army as well).

I seem to remember (a LONG time ago) at a training base near York (the one now overgrown with weeds) that the Scuffers used to set up a speed camera just down the road from the Main Gate just in time to catch the boys leaving work - there were a few codewords arranged between the aircrew and Air Tragic!

I'm totally against speeding in towns/villages and drink driving but deliberate targetting is bang out of order - surely it must be illegal?
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 16:10
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It happens to the RN as well but we generally get the buzz around quickly that the ;lod are about. It is not unusual to hear the tannoy blasting out that the plod have established a check point at a particular plave and advising servicemen to chose an alternative route
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Stop Whining !

I don't see what the problem is here. If you don't drink and drive or exceed the speed limit - at peak times through a traffic bottleneck, then you have nothing to worry about. Quite frankly, if this campain saves one life during the festive period then 5 minutes of your valuable time blowing in a bag is worth it.
Lyneham personnel were not the only people to be targetted, it is a National campaign run every year. The police were there for 30 mins in the morning, just because you didn't see them from your office window, doesn't mean the Police do not work the other 23 hours and 30 minutes of the day. These are the same policeman that have to deal with the unpleasant consequences of drink drivers while the rest of us put our feet up for 2 weeks over the Christmas / New Year stand down.
If you have nothing to hide its not a problem.
Grow up.
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 16:14
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At Laarbruch in the early 80's OCA used to invite the German Police on base to monitor speeds - you could really get the revs up between VASS and XV Sqn!! He also gave the RAFP the authority to breathalise on camp too.........................we just bounced his car into the mess one happy hour and removed the wheels......filled his car up with water on another occasion. Despised or what!

If its any consolation wouldubelieveit, the fuzz have targeted other places in North Wilts too, so don't get too paranoid.
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Originally Posted by Bladdered
At Laarbruch in the early 80's OCA used to invite the German Police on base to monitor speeds - you could really get the revs up between VASS and XV Sqn!! He also gave the RAFP the authority to breathalise on camp too.........................we just bounced his car into the mess one happy hour and removed the wheels......filled his car up with water on another occasion. Despised or what!

If its any consolation wouldubelieveit, the fuzz have targeted other places in North Wilts too, so don't get too paranoid.
Not so sure it was OCA as I left Laarbruch in 1981 and they had been doing the same since I arrived in 1978 if i recall the favourite place was the road from the Sergeants/Officers mess heading down towards the NAAFI wonder where they were when the young SAC was killed by a drunk brit civvie??? 1980 I think?
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Ahh, geezerBJ and a few others seem to be in the 'If you're not with us....you're against us' mould.

Everyone reading this is against the idiot who gets into a car when they can't control it due to excessive alcohol intake (whether straight from a bar or the night before). I think you and others are missing the point though from start of this thread.

The VCP was aimed at people who will pay any fine without fail and take any action against them without any argument. It was also aimed, unfortunately, at a community that in the main, spends much of their time in countries that are populated by people wanting to blow them up.

My main point is that there is no, and I mean NO way this sort of thing would be set up around any minority community because the fuss and shouting that would be kicked up and therefore would make the news. Whereas we just sit and take it.....as usual. The selection of this stop and check exercise kicks any educated member of the armed forces in the teeth....again.

By the way, I won't be enjoying my time at home over xmas and I don't sit in a warm office all day. So geezerBJ and others on his side, you've just shown yourself up as a pretty narrow minded type that says the same thing with more volume when they don't get their own way!

FbS
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Narrow minded ? How do you know that other communities haven't been targetted? Were you targetted, if so you would have realised that the officers doing the checking were MOD Police. Which community would you suggest the MOD police more appropriately turn their attention to ?I'm more than happy to have them protecting my family and those of my friends and neighbours in FMQs. Like I said if you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to worry about. Whilst I am very aware that the forces are working extremely hard at the moment, me included, the excuse sorry officer I spent 3 weeks in Afghanistan in April doen't make you exempt from keeping to the speed limits.
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