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Old 18th Dec 2006, 09:47
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Sleep with the boss's wife. Used to be the standard way to get out early. Not sure how that would affect your problems at home though!
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Old 18th Dec 2006, 10:14
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Originally Posted by 6Z3
Sleep with the boss's wife. Used to be the standard way to get out early. Not sure how that would affect your problems at home though!
...Well that just brought the whole tone down to ground zero
Just thinking out loud here, but during my time working with the dark blue, they used to give you a compassionate draught nearer to home. Since the RAF have far more bases than the RN and they are spread out more evenly in the UK; then could this not be an option for you?
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Old 18th Dec 2006, 10:15
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SaddamsLoveChild, thanks for the reply. My needs are genuine, and the whole stress of the PVR issues are making them worse to be honest. Boss is straight from training though, and not sure he knows what to do, keeps telling me that he is RAF through and through.

6Z3, dont think he has time for a relationship from what he tells me
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Old 18th Dec 2006, 10:32
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Update!! Slow one at that

Just spoke to chf clk, been told that they will rec that i get an early realease date, along with my letter and letter from smo saying about personal problems. Not sure if the appeal will help? Does anyone know how these work? and what the chances are of it helping?
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Depends what trade you are now. If you are TG1, TG17 or other trades that were being shed in final round of redundany (this time around) then there is a good chance that RoS will be ignored. If you find a job quickly or have a particularly strong 'compassionate' case this will help. TG2, FFtr, RAFP, Gnr or Medic and you may not be able to get out earlier than your RoS unless there are real and significant factors that will affect your ability to operate fully (in UK and in operational theatres).

The paperwork is staffed through PMA6 staff to PMA5. Make sure that the paperwork is carefully written up and that you do not resort to emotional blackmail. Get the Chf Clk to draft some meaningful words and not just 'agreed', strongly recommended' or other meaningless but rather too well used comments. The case will need the support of your Flt/Sqn Cdr who may well be required to indicate whether the post can be gapped - there is of course a risk here that they may not be able to take. All too frequently the Flt Cdr wrtes - supported if PMA can replace........this will not help you. Hope this helps.

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Old 18th Dec 2006, 11:54
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Thanks Ed

Thanks for the information Ed, The main problem is have is Flt Cdr. To him its all about numbers. On every letter he puts not willing to gap and thats about it (Never think i will get him onside).

I have a job lined up, The RAF have my job offer. The RAF have medical proof of my problems from home.

Bladdered, you say not to use emotional blackmail. In my letter i said that if i was made to do 16 months, my performance would be affected and the RAF would be wasting money keeping me employed (was that a bad thing to put on my appeal?)
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Old 18th Dec 2006, 12:17
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Hum, suspect that has been heard before unless your case is very compelling. If you have a job offer and medical support, that will definately help.

If you have to appeal against a no decision by PMA, if I were you, I would go around the flt cdr who appears out of his depth. As I do not know what sort of sqn you work in, I cannot give specific advice - do you have a WO or FS to speak to who may be able to speak sympathetically to the sqn cdr? At the moment, It sounds as though you have enough in place to support your first application but if you fail, be prepared to up the stakes - your local MP may be willing to write a letter too.

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Old 18th Dec 2006, 13:01
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Bladdered has it spot on. This is why we have WOs who must (surely ???) be looking after sqn manning for the sqn boss. Your sqn cdr will have been round the block a bit and might have a 'bigger-picture' view than your shiny new flt cdr. I cannot recommend too strongly that you get your WO on side - and hence are a good lad (or lass) with a problem -rather than pulling in a lot of outside interference which will, if nothing else, deflect them onto to dealing with that rather than solving your problem.

I don't know your circumstances or your flt's op/commitments - it might be that your case might not hold up compared to others' problems or that your boss really does need (even a very unhappy) you to do some essential job or take your turn on det etc. However, if it is just 'I am short of people' your Boss need to get used to this for the next 30 or so years and this is the sort of training WOs are supposed to help JOs with, even if it does make their ears bleed.

Good luck anyway!
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 21:25
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1. Report to the MO because you are stressed and can't concentrate on your job.

2. Fail your fitness test and claim sex discrimination.

3. Refuse to give a sample at a drugs test.

Of course, If you have earned your pension already then 2 & 3 might not be as easy!
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 22:01
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By all means tell me to wind my neck in but may I ask you - is it really the RAF that is at the root of your problem? By leaving the RAF is it possible that you add to your concerns by having to find a job on top of whatever else is giving you grief?

There really is a lot of support that you could draw upon in the RAF. I'm disappointed for you that you don't appear to have a boss that could assist you - probably because he's cutting his teeth at a tricky time, however, there are plenty of other options and I urge you to try to find someone that will listen before you go the solicitor route. Is there an approachble SNCO you know?
Good luck.
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