Target Pistol Shooting Petition
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I know that this thread is not necessarily a military topic, however, given that Mick Gault works for the RAF, and he needs to train overseas to compete in his chosen sport, I thought I would chance my arm and post this request on the Military Thread.
Can anyone interested in target pistol shooting please sign up to this petition here.
Can anyone interested in target pistol shooting please sign up to this petition here.
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What a good idea. I had to chuckle at this one http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/juggle/
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Nb the new note about hotmail addys on the site (I was about to post a 'anyone else not had the confirmatory e-mail/appeared on the list?' note, then I had another look at the site).
So really just in case you are wondering why you haven't had the e-mail confirmation and are not yet on the petition list (I suspect there are rather 'a few' people with hotmail addys).
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So really just in case you are wondering why you haven't had the e-mail confirmation and are not yet on the petition list (I suspect there are rather 'a few' people with hotmail addys).
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I do have to ask myself two questions after reading this thread. Firstly:
Why is it such a funny idea to petition the PM to stand on his head and juggle ice creams? Does this not just cheapen the system in Number 10's eyes? And therefore encourage them to remove the system of online petitioning? (Hang your head "Chuffer Dandridge!")
Secondly, (And I apologise now for being a grumpy old RAF stick in the mud) but why does Mick Gault need to train overseas? Am I missing something? I mean, I've had a look at the literature, and I'm all for atheletes training in optimum conditions, but surely as a pistol shooter he shoots pellets at a target? Does he need to go overseas to train? He's not exactly a marathon runner who needs altitude training.
While I post this in all good faith, I'm happy to be corrected on why a pistol shooter needs overseas training. I'm more than happy to have it explained to me why an MOD civilian needs military support on a petition site from members of the services, (especially on a worthless petition site as I have illustrated in my second paragraph.)
The above notwithstanding, I wish Mick all the best, I only hope our track and field atheletes get the support they deserve also, and for once deleiver where it matters.
Why is it such a funny idea to petition the PM to stand on his head and juggle ice creams? Does this not just cheapen the system in Number 10's eyes? And therefore encourage them to remove the system of online petitioning? (Hang your head "Chuffer Dandridge!")
Secondly, (And I apologise now for being a grumpy old RAF stick in the mud) but why does Mick Gault need to train overseas? Am I missing something? I mean, I've had a look at the literature, and I'm all for atheletes training in optimum conditions, but surely as a pistol shooter he shoots pellets at a target? Does he need to go overseas to train? He's not exactly a marathon runner who needs altitude training.
While I post this in all good faith, I'm happy to be corrected on why a pistol shooter needs overseas training. I'm more than happy to have it explained to me why an MOD civilian needs military support on a petition site from members of the services, (especially on a worthless petition site as I have illustrated in my second paragraph.)
The above notwithstanding, I wish Mick all the best, I only hope our track and field atheletes get the support they deserve also, and for once deleiver where it matters.
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Secondly, (And I apologise now for being a grumpy old RAF stick in the mud) but why does Mick Gault need to train overseas? Am I missing something?
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However, the Olympic category target pistols are illegal in the UK, hence the stupid situation that UK competitors have to train overseas.....
Will/can they, drop the event on that occassion ? .....
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Target Pistol Shooting
I was an active pistol shooter at the time the then Home Secretary Michael Howard oversaw the banning of legaly held pistols in this country on the premise that it would reduce handgun related crime. My fellow shooters and I always thought it a little ironic that the ban did not, and I believe still does not, apply to Northern Ireland where there is a thriving pistol shooting community. Work that one out if you can.
Good question. Perhap they'll introduce darts instead. Whatshisname Phil "the Power" should romp home with gold.
Seriously though, all the best to Mick Gault and the others. The law is barking as it stands.
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I believe that the Government allowed a waver to the pistol ban for all Olympic Target Pistol competitors for the duration of the London Olympics. I imagine strict controls will be put in place whereby all pistol competitors (including British marksmen and women) will be expected to have their pistols confiscated on arrival in the UK by the Police. The pistols will then be transported, probably under police armed escort (the irony) to wherever the pistol shooting will take place. Once in the UK, pistols will be kept under lock and key and probably armed guard (again the irony) and only allowed to be drawn for practice and competition. Once the Olympics are over they will probably be escorted back to through customs where they'll be handed back to the competitor.
The stupid thing about the whole situation is that the rest of a country's shooting team (rifle, clay pigeon, air rifle, air pistol) will be able to just carry their equipment into the UK with a few checks at customs and then transport their firearms to the ranges themselves (assuming they have the appropriate paperwork for the firearm).
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<<<< I wonder how they will handle the 2012 Olympics in London? ..... >>>>
I suspect the same way as they did for the 2002 Manchester Commonwealth Games (the shooting disciplines were done at Bisley, Surrey):Yep, armoured cars.......
I suspect the same way as they did for the 2002 Manchester Commonwealth Games (the shooting disciplines were done at Bisley, Surrey):Yep, armoured cars.......
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Why is it such a funny idea to petition the PM to stand on his head and juggle ice creams? Does this not just cheapen the system in Number 10's eyes? And therefore encourage them to remove the system of online petitioning? (Hang your head "Chuffer Dandridge!")
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Why is it such a funny idea to petition the PM to stand on his head and juggle ice creams?
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I feel you may have taken my post a bit personally, that wasn't intended so my apologies if that's the case.
And anyway, I have a wonderful sense of humour. My kids tell me that all the time, as long as I beat them hard enough.
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Call me old fashioned...
...but for genuine competition shooting, couldn't the Armed Forces permit use of their armouries and ranges for suitably vetted (civilian) shots?
Every armoury I have ever been in has a motley collection of civil weapons in the corner, belonging to members of the unit. Most major units have at least a 25m range, extensive armoury and ammunition storage facilities, all protected by dogs and armed guards 24/7.
Having people who know how to shoot straight might just help foster an interest in shooting, the most basic military skill amongst those whose "day job" rarely involves small arms. I for one hated having to do the annual APWT shoot, I was crap at shooting. Then I was asked along to a range day with the shooting team and never looked back. It's actually fun, when you're not being concurrently fcuked about with NBC gassing etc.
Just a thought...
...but for genuine competition shooting, couldn't the Armed Forces permit use of their armouries and ranges for suitably vetted (civilian) shots?
Every armoury I have ever been in has a motley collection of civil weapons in the corner, belonging to members of the unit. Most major units have at least a 25m range, extensive armoury and ammunition storage facilities, all protected by dogs and armed guards 24/7.
Having people who know how to shoot straight might just help foster an interest in shooting, the most basic military skill amongst those whose "day job" rarely involves small arms. I for one hated having to do the annual APWT shoot, I was crap at shooting. Then I was asked along to a range day with the shooting team and never looked back. It's actually fun, when you're not being concurrently fcuked about with NBC gassing etc.
Just a thought...
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With the interesting scenario in my mind that holding the shooting segment of the Olympics in 2012 will entail the marksmen of the home country being the only ones not being allowed to hold firearms. I seem to remember that the Japanese also prevent their citizens from owning pistols, so at least we aren't alone!
