Air Display 'C*ck Ups'
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is that the AAR probe out?
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Well with all that photoshopping going on I am convinced there must be a conspiracy to show how good computer software is... or maybe...
those funny people in the East may just have got an aircraft they feel confident in to pull a stunt like that
those funny people in the East may just have got an aircraft they feel confident in to pull a stunt like that
Photoshopper at work?
..Also correct me if I am wrong but the white centreline stops on the top of the canopy and does not continue through........??
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I am not familiar with the Su-27 family but it would not surprise me that when the probe was out the FBW controls automatically changed into a lower gain more stable mode. Just what you want for flying very low.
JF
I am not familiar with the Su-27 family but it would not surprise me that when the probe was out the FBW controls automatically changed into a lower gain more stable mode. Just what you want for flying very low.
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Absolutely not military person but fond memories of Rosyth Navy Day cock-up in the late seventies (forgive my lack of correct terminology as we go thru' this). As a radio presenter at the time, I was to give a live commentary to the local radio station where I worked during a simulated rescue from a dinghy pegged down on the centre of the football field. This bit at least was correct (the pegging down bit). I am suited up, helmeted, mic-ed and accompanied out to the dinghy by an officer whose rank I am not now sure of, but he did carry a lot of responsiblity (and notes, of which more later). Obviously he is in radio communication - few minutes later Sea King becomes visible over Forth Bridge from Turnhouse area. To add drama and guide my rescuers in, my new-found friend holds aloft a flare and lights it - upside down..
Much burning of uniform, not to say skin, and he does a very good job of inverting the burning flare without intemperate language (gritted teeth etc.) - heroically refusing assistance. Helo now in hover, winchman descends to pluck me from my watery grave - me commentating live on-air, but as I am helped aboard and plugged in, disaster no 2 befalls my officer. With a painful and obviously weakened arm, as we put the nose down to make off, the downdraft reaches him and dispatches the contents of his loose-leaf folder to the four corners of the field - yes it was the entire instructions for Rosyth Navy Day. Looked like about 250 pages to me - rather like confetti. Much abuse from the pilot "told him not to bring anything loose onto the field - bloody fool" etc. but sadly after we landed I did not see him again. Hope he was OK - maybe he uses this forum... Anyway it was all around thirty years ago..
After careful thought I edit this by saying this is in no way to discredit or humiliate the person involved - accidents are accidents and I've had more than most people - I learn a lot from this website.
Much burning of uniform, not to say skin, and he does a very good job of inverting the burning flare without intemperate language (gritted teeth etc.) - heroically refusing assistance. Helo now in hover, winchman descends to pluck me from my watery grave - me commentating live on-air, but as I am helped aboard and plugged in, disaster no 2 befalls my officer. With a painful and obviously weakened arm, as we put the nose down to make off, the downdraft reaches him and dispatches the contents of his loose-leaf folder to the four corners of the field - yes it was the entire instructions for Rosyth Navy Day. Looked like about 250 pages to me - rather like confetti. Much abuse from the pilot "told him not to bring anything loose onto the field - bloody fool" etc. but sadly after we landed I did not see him again. Hope he was OK - maybe he uses this forum... Anyway it was all around thirty years ago..After careful thought I edit this by saying this is in no way to discredit or humiliate the person involved - accidents are accidents and I've had more than most people - I learn a lot from this website.
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The U.S.A.F. seem to have problems identifying display locations in the UK. the bomber display at Blackbushe instead of Farnborough being a recent example.
I remember an air display at Elmdon (now Birmingham International) airport back in the 1950's. The highlight was breaking the sound barrier by three F86 Sabres of the U.S.A.F. At the appointed time the Tannoy was switched into the team leaders radio transmission, we could hear that they were commencing their dive, speed increasing and now breaking the sound barrier! the hushed crowd then heard three muffled double bangs similar to distant field gun fire and wondered what all the fuss over supersonic bangs was about. Meanwhile a few miles away at Hockley Heath, where there was a disused wartime glider training airfield, all hell broke loose when three sonic bangs were aimed straight at the unsuspecting village.
Back at the show we stood around for a while before the three Sabres came flashing across the airfield at a very impressive speed.
On another occasion, at a Battle Of Britain air display at Gaydon, there was to be a flight refuelling demonstration by the U.S.A.F. at three o'clock. At the scheduled time we were told that the next item was the flight refuelling display, we stood around searching the sky and did not see a thing.
Later I cycled back to my home, which was near Honily airfield, to be told by my mother that two big aeroplanes had been going around the area at three o'clock with one "towing" the other one.
I remember an air display at Elmdon (now Birmingham International) airport back in the 1950's. The highlight was breaking the sound barrier by three F86 Sabres of the U.S.A.F. At the appointed time the Tannoy was switched into the team leaders radio transmission, we could hear that they were commencing their dive, speed increasing and now breaking the sound barrier! the hushed crowd then heard three muffled double bangs similar to distant field gun fire and wondered what all the fuss over supersonic bangs was about. Meanwhile a few miles away at Hockley Heath, where there was a disused wartime glider training airfield, all hell broke loose when three sonic bangs were aimed straight at the unsuspecting village.
Back at the show we stood around for a while before the three Sabres came flashing across the airfield at a very impressive speed.
On another occasion, at a Battle Of Britain air display at Gaydon, there was to be a flight refuelling demonstration by the U.S.A.F. at three o'clock. At the scheduled time we were told that the next item was the flight refuelling display, we stood around searching the sky and did not see a thing.
Later I cycled back to my home, which was near Honily airfield, to be told by my mother that two big aeroplanes had been going around the area at three o'clock with one "towing" the other one.
Another USAF one, from the 70's.
An air display, possibly Cranwell or Syerston, was due to have a flypast by a USAF F-111 from RAF Upper Heyford. At the appointed hour the aircraft did the flypast - but not at the correct airfield!
The parachutists gently floating to the ground at Langar were not impressed.
The message by 'mustpost' about the radio commentary reminds me of one from just a few years ago ... the 'crash' landing of the Italian G.222 at the RIAT at RAF Fairford.
At the time I was in the press enclosure, and was watching some people from the local BBC radio (BBC Radio Gloucs or Wilts, or such) preparing for a 'live insert' into their news program. I was also listening to them and their talkback frequency on my scanner
, so I heard the cue messages and knew it was 'live'. The reporter was facing away from the runway, telling everybody about the air display, how everything was running smoothly, people enjoying themselves, blah, blah. Behind her (and she was completely oblivious to the event ... ) the G.222 nose-wheel collapsed and the aircraft skidded down the runway.
She 'signed off' from the live broadcast, looked at the sound-man as if to say 'how was that?', and then saw everybody gawping at the carnage on the runway.
An air display, possibly Cranwell or Syerston, was due to have a flypast by a USAF F-111 from RAF Upper Heyford. At the appointed hour the aircraft did the flypast - but not at the correct airfield!
The parachutists gently floating to the ground at Langar were not impressed
.The message by 'mustpost' about the radio commentary reminds me of one from just a few years ago ... the 'crash' landing of the Italian G.222 at the RIAT at RAF Fairford.
At the time I was in the press enclosure, and was watching some people from the local BBC radio (BBC Radio Gloucs or Wilts, or such) preparing for a 'live insert' into their news program. I was also listening to them and their talkback frequency on my scanner
, so I heard the cue messages and knew it was 'live'. The reporter was facing away from the runway, telling everybody about the air display, how everything was running smoothly, people enjoying themselves, blah, blah. Behind her (and she was completely oblivious to the event ... ) the G.222 nose-wheel collapsed and the aircraft skidded down the runway.She 'signed off' from the live broadcast, looked at the sound-man as if to say 'how was that?', and then saw everybody gawping at the carnage on the runway.
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Yet another USAF one.
RAF Bishops Court, Northern Ireland, Aug 1989. While bulling up the insides of a HF200 height finding Radar for a CO's inspection one Saturday afternoon, I hear the distinctive whine of turbofan engines. I turn to my colleague and state ‘That sounds like an A-10, what the hell is it doing over here?’ Run outside the radar to see a pair of them do two circuits around the airfield, much to the surprise of the local VGS Venture glider that was in the circuit at the time. The Warthogs were actually supposed to be displaying in the Ulster Airshow at Newtownards 20 miles to the north.
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I was part of the emergency services team at IAT 93 and remember giving a thumbs up to a Puma as he taxied from North side and their was'nt a lot of space between the blades and the top of some engineering guys discovery. I then ran bout 1/2 mile to get keys and move it. Which for me,then and now, is a very long way. At the time the fireries thought they were looking for a dead Mig pilot!! A few beers were sunk that night!!
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Dubai Finals Three Greens
Not really and air show as such but, back in around 86 -87 I was in Dubai and there was a bit of a shindig at the airport for Shiekh Mohammed. Then Defence Minister, now Ruler.
The airport was undergoing expansion and a new parallel runway was just complete, but not yet open, to the east (Sharjah side) of the original runway, 36/18 I think.
The Abu Dhabi Air Force (uncomfortable allies in the Dubai Air Wing in the UAE AF), sent three Mirages (can't remember of they were IIIs or Vs). They did the standard run and break and ships 1 & 2 landed, as expected on the "old" 36L runway. Ship 3 however lands on the new 36R. Only snag, taxiways from 36R not yet compete. Jet emabarrassingly stranded in mid field for rest of ceremony!
Unfathomable as (you'd hope) ship 3 must have had 1 & 2 in sight throughout run, break, downwind finals?
The airport was undergoing expansion and a new parallel runway was just complete, but not yet open, to the east (Sharjah side) of the original runway, 36/18 I think.
The Abu Dhabi Air Force (uncomfortable allies in the Dubai Air Wing in the UAE AF), sent three Mirages (can't remember of they were IIIs or Vs). They did the standard run and break and ships 1 & 2 landed, as expected on the "old" 36L runway. Ship 3 however lands on the new 36R. Only snag, taxiways from 36R not yet compete. Jet emabarrassingly stranded in mid field for rest of ceremony!
Unfathomable as (you'd hope) ship 3 must have had 1 & 2 in sight throughout run, break, downwind finals?