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Not quite as good for dit telling rights though is it?
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There is often a hairs breadth between 'a bloody good story' and 'a bloody idiot'.
But on the other hand, would Sir Douglas Bader be quite the hero he is if he had't done that bloody stupid stunt?
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In the early 70s, one of our Wessex crews came back with an Irish flag they had "found". We put it up as the backdrop for our crewroom darts board in Aldergrove.
Next morning, it was gone. Scary or what?
Next morning, it was gone. Scary or what?
stupid? yes. stupidest? no.
For me nothing beats the crab puma loadie who stiched a burst from his GPMG through the 25000-odd litres of A-1 in R850 - mind you he was keen - for a crab - in actually trying to load the weapon at all instead of keeping the rounds nicely vacuum packed.
Let he who is without sin cock the first weapon. (on the other hand - just stick to telling people to strap in and leave the sharp end to those of us who know how.)
For me nothing beats the crab puma loadie who stiched a burst from his GPMG through the 25000-odd litres of A-1 in R850 - mind you he was keen - for a crab - in actually trying to load the weapon at all instead of keeping the rounds nicely vacuum packed.
Let he who is without sin cock the first weapon. (on the other hand - just stick to telling people to strap in and leave the sharp end to those of us who know how.)
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none of your quotes or statements contradict the case of what this AAC crew are allegeded to have done as unacceptable as professionals and you can only refute this with stating that an RAF crew did some parachuting hooligan style?
I don't deny a hooligan jumping out of a C130 could be dangerous but that would depend on your definition of a hooligan as I'm sure were all very grateful for some so called hooligans that jump from C130s.
No one denies that the ROYAL Air Force has its fair share of reckless incidents, however these are not at the centre of this particular pearl of an incident which highlights all that can be wrong within aviation.
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stupid? yes. stupidest? no.
For me nothing beats the crab puma loadie who stiched a burst from his GPMG through the 25000-odd litres of A-1 in R850 - mind you he was keen - for a crab - in actually trying to load the weapon at all instead of keeping the rounds nicely vacuum packed.
For me nothing beats the crab puma loadie who stiched a burst from his GPMG through the 25000-odd litres of A-1 in R850 - mind you he was keen - for a crab - in actually trying to load the weapon at all instead of keeping the rounds nicely vacuum packed.
This I know for certain as I was at the time minding my own business tidying up the hoses on Spot 5 when the senior ALM on the Puma fleet decided our tanks needed extra vents.
Of course the lad who was over in the bund doing the water checks on the filters was even closer to the 'action'.Us wing mongs have seen equal amounts of numptiness from both AAC and RAF growbags, but if you speak to most wing lads they have nothing but praise for Junglies as it was usually them who lifted off G40 when 'fog' had stopped play for everyone else.
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Dear oh dear CockRobin that is just priceless
A crewman makes a genuine mistake with his unload drills and has an ND, feckin stupid and no excuses but a mistake none the less
A lynx CREW go out and deliberately and with premeditation completely disregard their auth and, but for extreme good luck almost cat 5 their aircraft
Ah now I see it, your right it's the Crewman who is the stupidest
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A crewman makes a genuine mistake with his unload drills and has an ND, feckin stupid and no excuses but a mistake none the less
A lynx CREW go out and deliberately and with premeditation completely disregard their auth and, but for extreme good luck almost cat 5 their aircraft
Ah now I see it, your right it's the Crewman who is the stupidest
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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As a tax payer I must voice my objection to a publicly owned aircraft being used for attempted theft.
Hope they got the damages docked from their wages.
Hope they got the damages docked from their wages.
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stupid? yes. stupidest? no.
For me nothing beats the crab puma loadie who stiched a burst from his GPMG through the 25000-odd litres of A-1 in R850 - mind you he was keen - for a crab - in actually trying to load the weapon at all instead of keeping the rounds nicely vacuum packed.
Let he who is without sin cock the first weapon. (on the other hand - just stick to telling people to strap in and leave the sharp end to those of us who know how.)
For me nothing beats the crab puma loadie who stiched a burst from his GPMG through the 25000-odd litres of A-1 in R850 - mind you he was keen - for a crab - in actually trying to load the weapon at all instead of keeping the rounds nicely vacuum packed.
Let he who is without sin cock the first weapon. (on the other hand - just stick to telling people to strap in and leave the sharp end to those of us who know how.)
The crewman wasn't trying to load the weapon, it was an unload.
All the crewmen I know are as keen as mustard.
As for your last remark - I hope that isn't a reflection of AAC CRM. Not for the ones I've met, anyway.
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If you thought, like me that Cockrobin's comments were pretty ludicrous
"So 2 members of a five man Herc crew from 47 SF, yes we all know who they were, go parachuting with each stick until they have all jumped, but that wasn't premeditated, they just drew and fitted their parachutes in flight.
Me thinks not!!!"
We now have Carver telling us that the Lynx crew's actions are perfectly acceptable cos a Herc crew once did something wrong.............you couldn't write this stuff
The guy I feel most sorry for in all of this is the poor old door gunner. Having witnessed AAC CRM, now there's a misnomer if there ever was one, at first hand I can imagine this poor sap being ordered by some bully boy AAC SNCO Pilot to take part in this madness and he will no doubt be right royally butt f@cked for simply obeying a direct order
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
"So 2 members of a five man Herc crew from 47 SF, yes we all know who they were, go parachuting with each stick until they have all jumped, but that wasn't premeditated, they just drew and fitted their parachutes in flight.
Me thinks not!!!"
We now have Carver telling us that the Lynx crew's actions are perfectly acceptable cos a Herc crew once did something wrong.............you couldn't write this stuff
The guy I feel most sorry for in all of this is the poor old door gunner. Having witnessed AAC CRM, now there's a misnomer if there ever was one, at first hand I can imagine this poor sap being ordered by some bully boy AAC SNCO Pilot to take part in this madness and he will no doubt be right royally butt f@cked for simply obeying a direct order
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
If you're right with your assertion, ABIW, then today's DG is a far softer one than those with whom I served. They were, despite being only Airtroopers or Lance Corporals in rank, considered to be an equal and integral part of the crew. Since the DG Leader was also the Regimental Sergeant Major, they had a direct line to 'God', and woe-betide any 'bully boy SNCO pilot' who tried it on with them!
I might add that, should this act prove to have taken place, I do not condone the crew's actions. But then, in keeping with the traditions of Pprune, it's all conjecture, isn't it?
I might add that, should this act prove to have taken place, I do not condone the crew's actions. But then, in keeping with the traditions of Pprune, it's all conjecture, isn't it?
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Dig,
There was a smidge
of artistic licence with my post however my assertion that AAC DG's simply did as they were told was proven on at least two occasions I can remember when they hosed down parts of Sth Armagh and across the border in direct contravention of the ROE at that time, and if your seriously trying to tell me the DG in this incident was involved in the "planning" of this madness I simply dont buy it
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
There was a smidge
of artistic licence with my post however my assertion that AAC DG's simply did as they were told was proven on at least two occasions I can remember when they hosed down parts of Sth Armagh and across the border in direct contravention of the ROE at that time, and if your seriously trying to tell me the DG in this incident was involved in the "planning" of this madness I simply dont buy it all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced