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Marly Lite 30th Oct 2006 23:40

Lynx v Flagpole = 4 Trashed blades
 
Have it on good authority that an AAC Lynx trashed all 4 blades whilst attempting to get a 'trophy' Irish Tricolour (SP?) from a hilltop site in South Armagh very recently. The gunner attempted to cut said tricolour off the flagpole from the cabin door but unfortunately the aircraft decended slightly causing the alleged incident. Damage to the blades occured at quite a close inboard distance from the root.

Apparently, there will be no board of inquiry but SIB are investigating.

There are rumours of cover-up (no board of inquiry) or is this such an open-and-shut-case that a board of enquiry is irrelevant, so only an SIB equiry is necessary??

Should this be BOI or an SIB investigation??

TheWizard 31st Oct 2006 06:52

They could be the subject of a lot worse if it had been booby trapped like many of them used to be back in the day.:rolleyes: :uhoh:

Wholigan 31st Oct 2006 07:00

They used to booby-trap Lynxes???????? :E

PTT 31st Oct 2006 07:11


Originally Posted by Wholigan (Post 2938157)
They used to booby-trap Lynxes???????? :E

Yep. By putting AAC pilots in them...
:E :E

Two's in 31st Oct 2006 17:41

...or just getting Westlands to build them (sort of).

Faithless 31st Oct 2006 18:30

No Board of Inquiry?????? I bet there will be now...........

MINself 31st Oct 2006 20:25

What was that noise guns?
 
I have seen and heard that smaller military aviation detachments that are on operations and away from their normal hierachy and supervision can tend toward pushing those boundaries just a little too much in trying to get a job done.

However in this case IF TRUE and I hope it isn't, it will be a crew who clearly didn't leave their spurs at home on this day and deserve everything they get. I'm sure the rest of us would feel significantly safer without morons like this who have clearly demonstrated to be capable of stupidity of the highest order to be kept out of UK airspace.:=

Also if they'd have bothered to go to Nutts Corner market, (10min drive from Aldergrove) that tri-colour that they wanted so much would of cost them each £10 rather then the tax payer ie you and I a small fortune, yeah nice one lads! :ugh:

Seems there back to booby trapping Lynx again with pilots in need of guide dogs or higher IQ, sorry that last comments ridiculous.

MightyGem 31st Oct 2006 20:33

A thread VERY similar to this on ARRSE was pulled within a very short time!!

Floppy Link 31st Oct 2006 20:44

...thitle reminded me of the exchange tour chap who had 8 tip strikes at once in a CA...
Tip Strike Trev where are you now?

MReyn24050 31st Oct 2006 22:09

Used to be if the damage to the aircraft was Cat 2 and that there were no casualties then a Board of Inquiry was not required. In this case one would assume that it would be a case of replacing the gearbox and blades, a Second Line mobile task.

Two's in 31st Oct 2006 23:21

Last time I was involved in the similar part of the country for a similar reason, an erstwhile member of the Guards Division had tried to emplane by walking down a slope to the running Lynx at an OP in the dark, amazingly he walked into the blade tips on the CMRB blades with his Kevlar walking cap on, got knocked sideways and unconscious, was thrown in the back and flown to hospital. 3 days later he was as right as rain (for a Guardsman) and discharged, the Lynx just needed 4 new blades and a bit of RTB. If that had been the old steel blades he would have been decapitated.

The Helpful Stacker 1st Nov 2006 06:20


Originally Posted by Two's in (Post 2939611)
Last time I was involved in the similar part of the country for a similar reason, an erstwhile member of the Guards Division had tried to emplane by walking down a slope to the running Lynx at an OP in the dark, amazingly he walked into the blade tips on the CMRB blades with his Kevlar walking cap on, got knocked sideways and unconscious, was thrown in the back and flown to hospital. 3 days later he was as right as rain (for a Guardsman) and discharged, the Lynx just needed 4 new blades and a bit of RTB. If that had been the old steel blades he would have been decapitated.

There was a chap at R850 who decided to step off an adjoining 'step' into the blades of a Lynx (spot 3 to 4 I believe). Luckily he was also wearing his Mk6 and escaped his escapade with a concussion and whiplash.

Those steps used to claim many, especially folk jumping out the port side of a Lynx on spot 4 and going straight off the edge onto the fuel pipeline.:uhoh:

Purple_NOT_take_a_D 1st Nov 2006 17:43

I heard it was an RAF Puma...........:eek:

Ed Winchester 1st Nov 2006 17:54


Originally Posted by Purple_NOT_take_a_D (Post 2940809)
I heard it was an RAF Puma...........:eek:

You heard wrong, but I like your style.
Sounds like they ran out of ability trying something unbelievably daft. However, thank f no-one was hurt.
I also think we are washing our dirty linen in public here, nice one Marly Lite. :ugh:

The Helpful Stacker 1st Nov 2006 17:58


Originally Posted by Ed Winchester (Post 2940821)
....I also think we are washing our dirty linen in public here, nice one Marly Lite. :ugh:

Oh I see.

RAF - Utterly, utterly etc = people can say what they like and slag the RAF to high heaven.

Teeny Weenie Airways - Trash an a/c trying something stupid = dirty linen airing, naughty naughty, keep it in house.

:ugh:

Ed Winchester 1st Nov 2006 18:07


Originally Posted by The Helpful Stacker (Post 2940824)
Oh I see.
RAF - Utterly, utterly etc = people can say what they like and slag the RAF to high heaven.
Teeny Weenie Airways - Trash an a/c trying something stupid = dirty linen airing, naughty naughty, keep it in house.
:ugh:

Marvellous powers of deduction. I have been in the RAF for over 16 years. But you obviously know me better than I know myself.
:D

wg13_dummy 1st Nov 2006 18:10


I have been in the RAF for over 16 years.

Sprog. I've got flying gloves older than that. :)

The Helpful Stacker 1st Nov 2006 18:33


Originally Posted by Ed Winchester (Post 2940837)
Marvellous powers of deduction. I have been in the RAF for over 16 years. But you obviously know me better than I know myself.
:D


But you aren't the only person to comment on this thread.

MINself 1st Nov 2006 21:06

I completely share your sentiment in hoping that the crew are safe and judging by the lack of public information on this incident I think its fair to say this is the case.

However to even try and excuse the utter recklessness of this incident with insinuating that everyone working in aviation must have done something of this nature is a little absurd to be honest.

And I don't think the SIB will be logging on anytime soon to join in this discussion so its safe to say their investigation should be unhindered from our Rumours

Or I could be wrong and to any SIB person reading this I'm sure you'll investigate this to the best of your ability and not make any investigative errors which result in the crew getting off scott free, so please crack on.

wg13_dummy 1st Nov 2006 22:53

I dont think it was the worry of the SIB reading this to be honest (can they read??).


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