Foiled airline bomb plan - Well Done!
Perhaps this was the August 22nd cataclysmic event that was being rumoured about?
Fully agreed....hand salute!
May they continue to do good work.
Fully agreed....hand salute!
May they continue to do good work.
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Heard that they'd nicked 21 of them - all indigenous Brits! Perhaps they should smear them with bacon fat before hanging them. Might cause the rest of them to think a bit.
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Well done, indeed!
Congrats again go to the Brits. As always, first rate police work and intelligence.
I'm hoping the muslim community was instrumental in exposing these mass murderers. They themselves need to cut out the fanatic fundamentalist cancer that is consuming their culture and and poisoning the moral fiber of their youth.
Congrats again go to the Brits. As always, first rate police work and intelligence.
I'm hoping the muslim community was instrumental in exposing these mass murderers. They themselves need to cut out the fanatic fundamentalist cancer that is consuming their culture and and poisoning the moral fiber of their youth.
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Originally Posted by allan907
Heard that they'd nicked 21 of them - all indigenous Brits! Perhaps they should smear them with bacon fat before hanging them. Might cause the rest of them to think a bit.
And no seperation in prison either. Treat them just like anyone else convicted of attempted murder . . . assuming they are convicted, of course.
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I want to add my voice to the praise that the security services are recieving for what is a huge success on their part! Well done to all of those people and organisations involved.
If those evil wa
ers had indeed achieved their aim of getting devices on some passenger planes, this would have been a very dark day.
It appears that these terrorists are getting ever more sophisticated and imaginitive - chemical explosives in sun cream, toothpaste tubes and drinks containers (all what I have just been listening to on the BBC).
This shows how well our security services have done in detecting and defeating this latest plot. The police and security services always come under a torrent of criticism when they fail - they should come under a torrent of praise today!
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If those evil wa
ers had indeed achieved their aim of getting devices on some passenger planes, this would have been a very dark day.It appears that these terrorists are getting ever more sophisticated and imaginitive - chemical explosives in sun cream, toothpaste tubes and drinks containers (all what I have just been listening to on the BBC).
This shows how well our security services have done in detecting and defeating this latest plot. The police and security services always come under a torrent of criticism when they fail - they should come under a torrent of praise today!
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Terrorism is a criminal act
Teen lard,
I agree with you. These people have allegedly broken criminal law and therefore must be treated as common criminals (as the IRA were on the UK mainland). Singling them out for special treatment will only legitimise (in their eyes) their heaven-sent mission.
Mind you, hanging might be too good for them...
I agree with you. These people have allegedly broken criminal law and therefore must be treated as common criminals (as the IRA were on the UK mainland). Singling them out for special treatment will only legitimise (in their eyes) their heaven-sent mission.
Mind you, hanging might be too good for them...
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Judging by the saturation news coverage covering...er...not very much at all other than massive queues at airports (quelle surprise) then there is nothing happening in Lebanon/ Israel today?
Bet the reporters over there are catching up on some sleep/ washing etc
CC
Bet the reporters over there are catching up on some sleep/ washing etc
CC
One hopes that this is more real than the supposed Ricin plot, or the imaginary problem that resulted in tanks at LHR in February 2003.
One hopes that the bomb factory in High Wycombe will prove more real than the one in Forest Gate.
One hopes that the 20 or so arrested people are guiltier than those at Forest Gate, and that the security forces have done better at picking out the guilty than they were with Jean Charles de Menezes.
One hopes that this isn't just a cack-handed attempt to distract attention from recent news in the Lebanon and Afghanistan, to whip up Islamophobia, and to prepare the ground for military action against people who the public might be persuaded to believe "are responsible for this" in Iran, say.
If this was a real plot, then of course everyone welcomes such quick, decisive and effective action, but in view of recent experience, there is bound to be some scepticism, and some are bound to wonder whether those responsible for previous panics and dodgy dossiers are taking us for a complete bunch of ****s.
And if it was real, then for christ's sake let's institute the right kind of airline security, based on measures that work (including ethnic profiling and a differential treatment of suspect groups, proper visas) and not on half witted PR gimmickry like banning books, iPods, laptops and baby wipes from the cabin.
One hopes that the bomb factory in High Wycombe will prove more real than the one in Forest Gate.
One hopes that the 20 or so arrested people are guiltier than those at Forest Gate, and that the security forces have done better at picking out the guilty than they were with Jean Charles de Menezes.
One hopes that this isn't just a cack-handed attempt to distract attention from recent news in the Lebanon and Afghanistan, to whip up Islamophobia, and to prepare the ground for military action against people who the public might be persuaded to believe "are responsible for this" in Iran, say.
If this was a real plot, then of course everyone welcomes such quick, decisive and effective action, but in view of recent experience, there is bound to be some scepticism, and some are bound to wonder whether those responsible for previous panics and dodgy dossiers are taking us for a complete bunch of ****s.
And if it was real, then for christ's sake let's institute the right kind of airline security, based on measures that work (including ethnic profiling and a differential treatment of suspect groups, proper visas) and not on half witted PR gimmickry like banning books, iPods, laptops and baby wipes from the cabin.
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....said Jackonicko from the warm fluffy comfort of his desk, with the luxury of time on his side whilst pondering what to say, safe in the knowledge that whatever he says it wouldn't have the same "Doh! Wrong answer!" result as the go/no-go decision that no doubt preceded this morning's activites.
Top job to all involved.
Top job to all involved.
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Well done to the security services for getting this plot foiled.
However..............a little part of me is a bit sceptical......
After all......
The Ricin plot.....wasn't that billed as a massive plot to kill lots of people.
The Forest Gate raid where the bloke was shot because of a chemical "waistcoat" plot to kill lots of people.
Stockwell..............say no more
.........standing by for the inevitable......
edited to say..... jacko made the same points as I was typing
However..............a little part of me is a bit sceptical......
After all......
The Ricin plot.....wasn't that billed as a massive plot to kill lots of people.
The Forest Gate raid where the bloke was shot because of a chemical "waistcoat" plot to kill lots of people.
Stockwell..............say no more
.........standing by for the inevitable......
edited to say..... jacko made the same points as I was typing
Last edited by November4; 10th Aug 2006 at 17:46.
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Shouldn't be nervous about stating the obvious, there have recently been more than enough half-assed security operations and government propaganda about the GWOT spouted for any member of the public to remain rightly skeptical of initial claims, and await for the facts to become available before passing on the thanks of a grateful nation. Don't start that "you're with me or you're with the terrorists" crap over in the UK, for pity's sake, I always gave you more credit.
Talking Radalt,
Which bit of:
"If this was a real plot, then of course everyone welcomes such quick, decisive and effective action, but in view of recent experience, there is bound to be some scepticism."
did you have a problem understanding.
Shall I take you for a beer and talk you through it?
JN
Which bit of:
"If this was a real plot, then of course everyone welcomes such quick, decisive and effective action, but in view of recent experience, there is bound to be some scepticism."
did you have a problem understanding.
Shall I take you for a beer and talk you through it?
JN
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Originally Posted by Jackonicko
Talking Radalt,
Which bit of:
"If this was a real plot, then of course everyone welcomes such quick, decisive and effective action, but in view of recent experience, there is bound to be some scepticism."
did you have a problem understanding.
Shall I take you for a beer and talk you through it?
JN
Which bit of:
"If this was a real plot, then of course everyone welcomes such quick, decisive and effective action, but in view of recent experience, there is bound to be some scepticism."
did you have a problem understanding.
Shall I take you for a beer and talk you through it?
JN
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Jacko
You are not alone in your thoughts about this. Once again something doesn't smell right! Be interesting to see some hard evidence, but I suspect there won't be any and in a few weeks time most of the 21 will be quietly freed. Meanwhile all of our attention is diverted from Israel/Lebanon, Iraq/Afghanistan and the probability that there are in fact millions of illegal economic migrants in the UK since 1997. But hey immigration isn't a problem anyway, look these 21 are all home grown British!!
I may be an old cynical g*t but the actions of HMG and the Police in recent years lead me to disbelieve all that they now say!
You are not alone in your thoughts about this. Once again something doesn't smell right! Be interesting to see some hard evidence, but I suspect there won't be any and in a few weeks time most of the 21 will be quietly freed. Meanwhile all of our attention is diverted from Israel/Lebanon, Iraq/Afghanistan and the probability that there are in fact millions of illegal economic migrants in the UK since 1997. But hey immigration isn't a problem anyway, look these 21 are all home grown British!!
I may be an old cynical g*t but the actions of HMG and the Police in recent years lead me to disbelieve all that they now say!
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Unfortunately the old curse, "May you live in interesting times" seems to be coming true,
More than enough reason for them to be sure of their facts this time then - hopefully
See other posts on the subject of August 22; and if you reallly believe in conspiraciy theories Google Nostradamus 21st century.
more than enough half-assed security operations and government propaganda
See other posts on the subject of August 22; and if you reallly believe in conspiraciy theories Google Nostradamus 21st century.